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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine
    The Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't a "god".
    He is a diety, and Divine Being, a Noodly Master.

    I pledge of Allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation, under our noodly creator, with liberty and justice for all.
    I would respond to this, but my Momma taught something about only an idiot argues with an......
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    Another ridiculous post that adds absolutely nothing to the debate but show your obssesive hate for this President.........There is good professional help out there...Seek it before it to late.....
    Umm...Its not that I hate the President.
    Its that you seem to worship him, I have never once seen you NOT in defense of the President on everything.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    I would respond to this, but my Momma taught something about only an idiot argues with an......
    So now im an Idiot for having a different religion?

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine
    So now im an Idiot for having a different religion?

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    I didn't say you were an idiot for having a different religon. Why do you think you're an idiot?
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    I didn't say you were an idiot for having a different religon. Why do you think you're an idiot?
    Oh, were playing THOSE games..
    Okay, i'll just ignore you now.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine
    Umm...Its not that I hate the President.
    Its that you seem to worship him, I have never once seen you NOT in defense of the President on everything.
    You might be surprised to hear I almost did not vote for him......I disagree with him on several issues

    1. A constitutional Amendment ro ban Gay Marriage

    2. The Immigration Issue

    3. Government spending in that he has not vetoed one bill that has been on his desk.......

    But the democrats gave me no options in the 2004 elections........They nominated in Kerry the biggest liberal in the U.S. Senate.....A man who changed his opinion on the issues on a daily basis....Worse of all though is I believe a man who either lied under oath to the senate and if he told the truth should have been prosecuted for war crimes.......
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    I won't go so far as to say that our laws are patterned after the laws of God. But all of us, even those who profess to believe in no religion of any kind, do derive our basic moral values from our collecive religious heritage, whether Jewish, Christian, pagan, or some other faith system. Because mot Americans descend from a JudeoChristian heritage, American laws do reflect that to a great degree. But it is not whose values that are at stake here but what values.

    The God of the Pledge is a reflection of our cultural heritage--the founders believed that unalienable (i.e. God-given rights) are not subject to the authority or discipline of men and are never to be challenged. These unalienable rights are not based on whose values but rather what on values shall be forever sacrosanct.

    This is what "under God' in the Pledge means to me. It is what should be taught to every school child and understood by every citizen. It was once taught that way. It should be taught that way again.

    My moral values are rooted in humility and arrogance, and extreme rationalism. There's no humility in Christianity, and no rationalism, either.

    It doesn't matter what you feel the "God of the Pledge" is, we're not worshipping furniture polish. The fact of the matter is that Congress violated the First Amendment by imposing a religious statement in a legal definition of an oath of fealty.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    You might be surprised to hear I almost did not vote for him......I disagree with him on several issues

    1. A constitutional Amendment ro ban Gay Marriage

    2. The Immigration Issue

    3. Government spending in that he has not vetoed one bill that has been on his desk.......

    But the democrats gave me no options in the 2004 elections........They nominated in Kerry the biggest liberal in the U.S. Senate.....A man who changed his opinion on the issues on a daily basis....Worse of all though is I believe a man who either lied under oath to the senate and if he told the truth should have been prosecuted for war crimes.......
    Except for your lentghy liberal hate comments about Kerry (who I don't think was the best Choice either), I seemed to have gained more respect for you, even though you scream liberal more times than I use the word "the".

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    My moral values are rooted in humility and arrogance, and extreme rationalism. There's no humility in Christianity, and no rationalism, either.

    It doesn't matter what you feel the "God of the Pledge" is, we're not worshipping furniture polish. The fact of the matter is that Congress violated the First Amendment by imposing a religious statement in a legal definition of an oath of fealty.
    But didn't you know? The "history, culture, and symbology" of the phrase in the pledge outweight all arguments of its constitutionality!!!!!!!!!!

    There has to be a website defending it because of its "historical, cultural, and symbological" value... because ive seen the same argument from 5 diff people on 2 different threads.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    My moral values are rooted in humility and arrogance, and extreme rationalism. There's no humility in Christianity, and no rationalism, either.

    It doesn't matter what you feel the "God of the Pledge" is, we're not worshipping furniture polish. The fact of the matter is that Congress violated the First Amendment by imposing a religious statement in a legal definition of an oath of fealty.
    Congress neither violated the First Amendment nor made the Pledge a "legal definition of an oath of fealty". In my opinion the First Amendment protects the 'under God' phrase in the Pledge and the phrase in no way violates it. The one thing the anti-religious types can't seem to understand is that establishment of religion and acknowledgement of religion are two separate things. Establishment of religion and evidence of religious belief are two separate things. Establishment of religion and acknowledging the religious heritage of the nation are separate things. The Founders knew that. I'm hoping a majority of the justices on the SCOTUS know that too.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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