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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    Nope. Never thank the imaginary for anything, but Rehnquist also was too old and should have retired long ago. I think the Constitution should be amended to place term limits on federal judges. For all it's liberal whining, The Pelican Brief had a decent point.
    The Constitution was written with the means for chaning it deliberately difficult and nigh impossible. The Constitution was written as it was because the writers were most astute about human nature. Human nature hasn't changed, and almost the entire document is still relevant today.
    So, in these two paragraphs, you're both in favor of making it almost impossible to amend the Constitution, and also amending it to place term limits on federal judges, something that almost everyone would agree is a non-issue?

    Good to see you're consistent...

    Sure, why not? He's done more damage with Windows, anyway.

    Sure. Who they gonna use it on? The world's richest people have the most to lose from a nuclear war. With the advent of the ICBM and the thermonuclear warhead, suddenly the rich were right there on the front lines with everyone else. No place to hide when cobalt's out to get you.
    There's just a basic disconnect in the way you and I view arms. You're completely entitled to your opinion, I just sleep well at night knowing that you will never have your way.

    That human ingenuity will find a way, laws to the contrary are mere impediments. Dollar for dollar, the OK City bombing killed more.
    Dollar for dollar? Wanna explain that?

    The ownership of PROPERTY is the cornerstone of American society. Erosion of that protection is the worst thing that can happen to this country.
    I don't think a limited, 5-4 decision that has yet to be put into practice and has a chance of being overturned shortly is the "end of american society..."
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    So, in these two paragraphs, you're both in favor of making it almost impossible to amend the Constitution, and also amending it to place term limits on federal judges, something that almost everyone would agree is a non-issue?

    Good to see you're consistent...
    I recently proposed elsewhere an amendment that would require all females under the age of 30 and under 130 pounds to go topless. That would gain a lot of popular support but still not get ratified. Pity.

    It's "difficult" to amend the Constitution, not impossible. It's apparently impossible to impeach presidents...er to get the Senate to convict on the impeachment, I mean.

    So there's no popular support for the idea of term limiting judges. Doesn't mean it's not a good idea.


    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    There's just a basic disconnect in the way you and I view arms. You're completely entitled to your opinion, I just sleep well at night knowing that you will never have your way.
    Why would you sleep well? As it stands, your neighbor could have an illegal cache of arms and you'd never know it. People like Osama WILL get a nuke, that's as sure as the sun rising on the devastated city. I've got better things to do that worry about impossible limits on gun ownership.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    Dollar for dollar? Wanna explain that?
    The Hiroshima bomb cost $2,000,000,000, killed 180,000 people. That's $11,000 a head.

    Those good ole boys in Oklahoma spent less than $10,000 and killed 165 people. That's $60 a head.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    I don't think a limited, 5-4 decision that has yet to be put into practice and has a chance of being overturned shortly is the "end of american society..."
    http://washtimes.com/national/20051003-122623-2136r.htm

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    Oh. So elections in this country AREN'T decided by the majority is what you're saying.

    Not that it matters. The Bill of Rights was written specifically to prevent the majority from crafting laws that imposed on the minority. And the first Amendment forbade laws regulating or establishing religions. Which is what the camel's nose of "under God" does in the Pledge of Allegiance.
    No matter how hard you people on the left try you will never get God out of this country......God is everywhere, on our money....The 10 commandments are in the chambers of the SCOTUS.......The Congress has a Chaplain who leads them member in prayer prior to every session.....There are many other examples........

    You need to get use to it or move to a Communist country where there is no God........You would fit right in.........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    The 10 commandments are in the chambers of the SCOTUS.......
    Wrong.
    They're on the frieze.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by shuamort
    Wrong.
    They're on the frieze.
    If that is so I stand corrected but they still are posted on government property in the area of the Supreme Court..........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    If that is so I stand corrected but they still are posted on government property in the area of the Supreme Court..........
    They're on the east pediment frieze along with Confucious, Solon, and the bastions of justice, the tortoise and the hare.

    Here're the story and pics from the horse's mouth.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by shuamort
    They're on the east pediment frieze along with Confucious, Solon, and the bastions of justice, the tortoise and the hare.

    Here're the story and pics from the horse's mouth.
    There's no getting around it. The 10 commandments cannot be put up by themselves, there must be other religious/secular items/documents alongside it. Theocrats love to cite the 10 commandments being in the Supreme Court, until someone points out that's not the only thing there.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    No matter how hard you people on the left try you will never get God out of this country......God is everywhere, on our money....The 10 commandments are in the chambers of the SCOTUS.......The Congress has a Chaplain who leads them member in prayer prior to every session.....There are many other examples........

    You need to get use to it or move to a Communist country where there is no God........You would fit right in.........
    That's a pretty good refutation of what I said.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    But that's an interesting point.

    What's the Ten Suggestions got to do with American law?

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    No matter how hard you people on the left try you will never get God out of this country......God is everywhere, on our money....The 10 commandments are in the chambers of the SCOTUS.......The Congress has a Chaplain who leads them member in prayer prior to every session.....There are many other examples........

    You need to get use to it or move to a Communist country where there is no God........You would fit right in.........
    Why are you doing this again?
    If you don't have anything intelligent to bring to the debate, and must go to blaming problems on "the left" and using attempted insults to get a weak point across, I ask you to stop posting in the thread.
    The only place you belong is the basement, your style of debate fits in down there kid.

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