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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine
    Of course its not an establishment OF A SPECIFIC Religion.
    Its a statement reguarding religion in general.
    And when someone does not state the pledge correctly, they are fiercely accused of being unpatriotic for not believing that our nation is "under god"
    Until you can prove that there IS a god... and that we are in fact "under" him... the statement should be removed from the pledge.
    You, know I don't know how many times I've put my hand over my heart and recited the Pledge, but it has been a lot of times in many different settings and with many different people. In all that time, I have never seen or heard anybody corrected, much less accused, for saying it wrong or for just standing there respectfully and not saying it at all. Not even a hard glance unless somebody is intentionally being disruptive and disrespectful. I think any teacher that did not immediatley correct a student who disrespected the rights of another student should be fired on the spot.

    One of my more poignant memories was when I was helping with Citizenship classes and attended the swearing in of new citizens coming from all over the world including Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims, Hindus, and who knows what else. Part of the ceremony included them putting their hands over their heart and saying the Pledge loudly and proudly from memory, 'under God' and all. They didn't mind.

    Why should you?
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    You, know I don't know how many times I've put my hand over my heart and recited the Pledge, but it has been a lot of times in many different settings and with many different people. In all that time, I have never seen or heard anybody corrected, much less accused, for saying it wrong or for just standing there respectfully and not saying it at all. Not even a hard glance unless somebody is intentionally being disruptive and disrespectful. I think any teacher that did not immediatley correct a student who disrespected the rights of another student should be fired on the spot.

    One of my more poignant memories was when I was helping with Citizenship classes and attended the swearing in of new citizens coming from all over the world including Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims, Hindus, and who knows what else. Part of the ceremony included them putting their hands over their heart and saying the Pledge loudly and proudly from memory, 'under God' and all. They didn't mind.

    Why should you?
    Some people are just not happy unless they have something to complain about............
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    Some people are just not happy unless they have something to complain about............
    Go away unless you have something to contribute to the debate.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    You, know I don't know how many times I've put my hand over my heart and recited the Pledge, but it has been a lot of times in many different settings and with many different people. In all that time, I have never seen or heard anybody corrected, much less accused, for saying it wrong or for just standing there respectfully and not saying it at all. Not even a hard glance unless somebody is intentionally being disruptive and disrespectful. I think any teacher that did not immediatley correct a student who disrespected the rights of another student should be fired on the spot.

    One of my more poignant memories was when I was helping with Citizenship classes and attended the swearing in of new citizens coming from all over the world including Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims, Hindus, and who knows what else. Part of the ceremony included them putting their hands over their heart and saying the Pledge loudly and proudly from memory, 'under God' and all. They didn't mind.

    Why should you?

    Because its unconstitutional.
    I think im done debating here because its obvious religion reigns over the constitution now. Why don't we make a collage of information from the religious scriptures of several different religions and make it the new basis of our government powers and structure?

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine
    Because its unconstitutional.
    I think im done debating here because its obvious religion reigns over the constitution now. Why don't we make a collage of information from the religious scriptures of several different religions and make it the new basis of our government powers and structure?
    Who says its unconstitutional? Some liberal judge from the whacked out 9th Circuit Court..........Lets wait and see what the SCOTUS says about it and I already know they will overturn the ruling......I hope your still around this forum so you can admit you were wrong..........
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    Who says its unconstitutional? Some liberal judge from the whacked out 9th Circuit Court..........Lets wait and see what the SCOTUS says about it and I already know they will overturn the ruling......I hope your still around this forum so you can admit you were wrong..........
    Do they have to be liberal if they read the 1st amendments establishment clause as stating the the government cannot suport and establishment of religion?
    Meaning, they cannot support that religion exists in the first place? But they cannot deny that religion exhists either. They are to remain neutral on it, which also means they cannot condone a pledge that makes a reference to any diety.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine
    Do they have to be liberal if they read the 1st amendments establishment clause as stating the the government cannot suport and establishment of religion?
    Meaning, they cannot support that religion exists in the first place? But they cannot deny that religion exhists either. They are to remain neutral on it, which also means they cannot condone a pledge that makes a reference to any diety.

    Like I said when the case goes to the SCOTUS the ruling will be overturned......We are a God fearing country and e will remain that way.........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    Like I said when the case goes to the SCOTUS the ruling will be overturned......We are a God fearing country and e will remain that way.........
    You hope so.....

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine
    You hope so.....
    I know so.......Just don't run off and hide when it happens..Be a man about it............
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    I know so.......Just don't run off and hide when it happens..Be a man about it............
    A: You don't know **** yet.

    B: I will be around. And I will be a man about it, reguardless.

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