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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by shuamort
    The problem goes a little deeper than that though.

    I'm sure you've heard this example before, but read the twist.

    Let's say that there are some changes in the government. They decide to change all major government sponsored holidays from Christian Holidays so that Christmas is no longer an official vacation day but Ramadan is. The pledge changes from "under God" to "under Allah". Coins change from "in Allah we trust". Etc. The USA does this because its population has become Muslim in majority.

    So, would these changes be based on the population and its new sense of history, or would these be based on a religious agenda?

    The point is, it's not the fact that it's a pledge and one may or may not say it. It's the deeper point that the government should not be endorsing one religious belief over another.
    I understan exactly what you are saying, but I don't feel the word God pushes one religion over another, hell Allah is just another word for God but since we don't speak that language we don't use that word (make any sence?). There are many names for many different gods but most relate to one being, "A rose by any other name", god just refers to god, not christian, not hebrew, not muslim, not any other religion, just god which we have a constitutional right to worship and or speak of.

    I believe they could have used a little more tact in trying to change the pledge by saying they wanted to go back to the original instead of making it all about the word God. I know I may be wrong but that is my own feelings on the matter.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    I caught some of the news and saw that a federal judge says they cannot say the pledge in schools in east Cali. anymore. Why? Because they have the words under god in it. I watched for a few more minutes and they showed people in Houston fighting in front of a school about what I still don't know. A spokesman for the Nation of Islam was answering questions about it or I should say dodging questions. When asked what they were fighting over all he would do is say one group sees the evacuees getting things and the other group is jealous about it. What he said at least three times is what got me and that is the Nation of Islam is going into the schools and will take care of this problem. Is it just me are is this not a double standard. We have people attacking god everywhere(schools, courthouses, and anywhere public gathers) but the Nation of Islam is going to go into schools and no one is saying jack about it. Where is the ACLU? They attack everything else. I don't want the Nation of Islam in any school where my child is do you? I just don't understand the direction this country is going except that I feel very uncomfortable when I see god attacked constantly and now I see Islam working with impunity. Where are we going asd a country?

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Would it have made anymore sense if the allegiance had said 'Under Father Christmas' ... or 'Under the tooth fairy' ?
    The pledge is to your country isnt' it... Not a fantasy figure. Maybe the judge you refer to simply isn't as prone to fantasies as you are
    Besides your pledge would only be to the neo cons in your country.
    Anyone to the left of attila the hun or who doesn't want to comply with American values, in your book needs to be napalmed yes ?
    Last edited by robin; 09-15-05 at 10:28 AM.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    The fact is no ones made to say it. And no one is going to be punished for not saying it so its not unconstitutional its that simple. When they make people say it and then punish the for not saying it then yes I will label it unconstitutional. But until then its not I am sorry. There snothing you can do.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    The fact is no ones made to say it. And no one is going to be punished for not saying it so its not unconstitutional its that simple. When they make people say it and then punish the for not saying it then yes I will label it unconstitutional. But until then its not I am sorry. There snothing you can do.
    You'll need to prove that it's constitutional. Just saying it is, doesn't support your case after a federal judge has ruled it's not.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    We are a nation under God, just not OF God. It should remain because God, morals, 10 commandments, etc. all influence the American lifestyle.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    I think it's a shame that the courts' time has to be wasted on such an unimportant matter. It's also a shame that someone felt they had to bring a lawsuit. Where do these people come from?

    If you don't like your children saying "under God," then don't say it.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot
    I think it's a shame that the courts' time has to be wasted on such an unimportant matter. It's also a shame that someone felt they had to bring a lawsuit. Where do these people come from?

    If you don't like your children saying "under God," then don't say it.
    It's a shame that congress' time was wasted on including "under God" in the pledge as well. If you want your children to say "under God", say it in your own time.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by shuamort
    It's a shame that congress' time was wasted on including "under God" in the pledge as well. If you want your children to say "under God", say it in your own time.
    I'm not sure how old you are, Shuamort, but if you were born in fifties, as I was, we said the Pledge every morning at school, and I didn't turn out too bad. ROTFL

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot
    I'm not sure how old you are, Shuamort, but if you were born in fifties, as I was, we said the Pledge every morning at school, and I didn't turn out too bad. ROTFL
    I was born in the 70s and we did too as well. I cry a little every night. Just kidding. But not only did we say the pledge, but then sang a patriotic song (from the National Anthem to Woody Guthrie's "This Land is Your Land". It didn't make me religious or patriotic either.

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