ok. thanks for clarifying!Originally Posted by alex
ok. thanks for clarifying!Originally Posted by alex
Re; Trajan Octavian
The Pledge was written in 1892 it was amended in 1954 to add " UNDER GOD' to it.
There is more Freedom of Religion in the USA than any country in the world.
I'm Jewish and I definitely do not believe that Jesus was the son of God, sorry. You believe that, fine, but our government must stay totally neutralin all matters re religion which is why the Supremes will never reverse this decision....hell, they may never even rule on it...Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Likewise my yank losing friend. I know the yanks arent doing so well but you dont need to take it out on me. Please wise up sir.Thanks for the name calling, does it make you feel better? Maybe next time you'll actually respond to the point that I was making in my post? Give it a try, it's really not that tough.
Thats all I have to say about that.Read those words a couple of times? I read those words to mean that because of illegal immigrants who do not attend church because they speak Spanish and churches do not that the number of people in the USA claiming to not be church-goers is incorrect. That is how I interpret those words.
If you don't like my interpretation of those words then rebut them. I think those words are wrong, really, really wrong. I think that to believe those words to be true is stupid. I have not called you anything, my comments are about the words in that post and my opinion of those words.
I call them as I read them, and those words to me are ugly generalizations about a group of people. I find those words to be untrue. If you think those are intelligent words that is your opinion and you're welcome to it.
I think those words translate to prejudice, and that is my opinion. Sorry if you disagree. Maybe you took my words personally because they struck a chord? Who knows?
I'm Jewish and I definitely do not believe that Jesus was the son of God, sorry. You believe that, fine, but our government must stay totally neutralin all matters re religion which is why the Supremes will never reverse this decision....hell, they may never even rule on it...
Well I concede to your beleifs and I respect them just please respect mine. And your right they might not even rule onit. But at least thanks for being logical on it.
The NY Yankees have exactly ONE loss more than the World Champion Boston Red Sox. ONE loss. By the end of action tonight it's possible they will have the same amount of losses. They are playing quite well right now, thank you.Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Baseball is a marathon, not a sprint, so l strongly suggest that you allow the season to unfold before making inaccurate and uninformed comments about the Yankees or any other team.
For what it's worth, the Cards have been the best team by far this year and I think they will win the Series this year....
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I think your rightFor what it's worth, the Cards have been the best team by far this year and I think they will win the Series this year....
Tha pads dont have what it takes and they never have. I think our team is just not there. I also know the yanks have always been a dynasty but thats no reason for the personal they have to not be in first place everytime. I know if I was a yank fan I would be very disappointed.
When your pitchers are on the disabled list for extended periods of time it hurts, literally. They're playing quite well these days and it looks like they will make the playoffs again, and after that anything can happen....Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Let's clear up one thing right now! This ruling does not take away the pledge. It is simply going to back to the way it used to be, which is inclusive and something that all citizens may feel comfortable saying. If you want to add "under God" you can do that, but the state shouldn't be doing that for anyone. The state has no business showing preference of any "God" specific or not (and I'm Deist to boot). Personally, let's just get rid of it. It's obvious by reading or watching the reactions to this ruling shows the pledge only serves to be divisive. It is not a measure of how patriotic you are, but for lazy people it takes only seconds and somehow makes you godly AND patriotic without really doing a damn thing. I just think that to be a patriotic American you need only to follow the Constitution. But what do I know?
This Newsweek poll was published in June 2002:
Now 9 of 10 doesn't indicate much diviseness wouldn't you say? So the question is, why should one anti-religious person get to dicate how nine others will say the Pledge of Allegiance when it is neither unconstitutional nor coercive in any way and infringes on nobody's rights?NEW YORK (CNN) -- Nearly nine in 10 Americans believe the phrase "under God" should remain in the Pledge of Allegiance, and most believe it is acceptable for the government to promote religious expression, as long as no specific religion is mentioned, according to a Newsweek poll.
"I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776