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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Really, you have direct correlations to any of those things?
    If almost 400yrs of not having these problems and all the sudden when we remove god out of schools is when we have these problems and you have the adacity to ask me is there any sort of correlation? I REALLY DONT KNOW HOW TO DEFINE CORRELATION ANY BETTER TO YOU PEOPLE. Theres no correlation? Really? 400yrs isnt correlation? Thats a funny remark

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    Clearly? Show me where it says that. Show me where it even implies that. Show me where the word 'god' is used by only Christians and Jews. (In fact Jews don't ever say the word "God" directly prefering G-d or YHWH.)

    Further there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits religion. It is definitely in the Consitution that religion may not be prohibited. What religion or requirement is being established by the phrase 'under God'? Do you suppose your understanding of God mirrors mine? I would doubt that a great deal.
    "...nothing in the Constitution that prohibits religion"? Read our First Amendment. You obviously are not very well informed.

    "Congress shall pass no law respecting the establishment of religion"

    In your face.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    "...nothing in the Constitution that prohibits religion"? Read our First Amendment. You obviously are not very well informed.

    "Congress shall pass no law respecting the establishment of religion"

    In your face.
    All that says is the establishment of a religion not that it was the foundation or that it was separated from all form of gov. You need to be alittle more informed not albowl.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    If almost 400yrs of not having these problems and all the sudden when we remove god out of schools is when we have these problems and you have the adacity to ask me is there any sort of correlation? I REALLY DONT KNOW HOW TO DEFINE CORRELATION ANY BETTER TO YOU PEOPLE. Theres no correlation? Really? 400yrs isnt correlation? Thats a funny remark
    Let's see, you claim:
    teen pregnancy, sex before marriage, drug use, domestic crimes, and school shootings
    are all results of a lack of god in school.

    Teen pregnancy? Actually the further you got back in time, the younger people got married and got pregnant. A lot of parents of my age group started their families directly out of high school, as teens.

    Sex before marriage? Sure. Lots of it.

    Drug use? Depends on how you define "drug use". Cocaine used to be the main component of Coca-Cola, thus the name. Alcohol was considered a drug as well and some still considered it to be a drug.

    Domestic crimes? Crime has always been prevalent in society. You'll need to find statistics that over the past 400 years that crime is on the rise and also combine that in relation to what the crimes committed were, taking into consideration that what used to be a crime isn't anymore and vice versa.

    Since there weren't a lot of school shootings 400 years ago, it's hard to say, but that's mostly because kids could run faster than you could load a musket.


    Of course, these are your claims, and with extraordinary claims, they require extraordinary proof.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Again let me spell it out for you. Congress shall pass no law in the establishment of religion. Meaning they cant tell you to not hold religios gatherings or build a church or make any prohibits of any sort on a religion. Is that logical enough? Where in that does it say no god or religion in state or federal affairs? I beleive nowhere in the constitution it says any of those words.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    Also how come no one has answered why in the last 50 yrs when god has been removed from our schools that teen pregnancy, sex before marriage, drug use, domestic crimes, and school shootings have gone up extensively? Hmmm.. no answer? Or I suppose the excuse for this one will be that this has nothing to do with god.

    O really? Well then tell me how come that when the very first people who came to america(pilgrims) implemented god in the school system and for over almost 400yrs we havent had these problems we now have today in the last 50yrs? Explain that astounding thing to me?
    Prove any of this.

    If you are going to blame the striking down of mandatory school prayer for all that has gone wrong in this country without any basis, then you have to also blame it for all that has gone right.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    then you have to also blame it for all that has gone right.
    Well what do you mean what has gone right? Please give specifics as I have.

    Prove any of this.
    I already have, its in the timeline. You shoudl know your history. You mean to say its just coincidence?

    I suppose you beleive the big bang too? Yeah coincidences is all you base life on. Very smart.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    All that says is the establishment of a religion not that it was the foundation or that it was separated from all form of gov. You need to be alittle more informed not albowl.
    How did "under god" get into our pledge? Congress passed a law that inserted it there.

    "Congress shall pass no law respecting the establishment of religion"

    Could that be any clearer? Seems like you need to be more informed. You have yet to back up any of your claims. They are just empty posts.

    I have to rest my hand now.... why?

    From the ass-whipping I've been giving you!
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    gee Alex. I had not meant to upset you. I do not feel like a higher class citizen at all. But schools do not even allow prayer anymore. Yeah, there is that monent of silence, but its not the same. its harder now to profess ones faith because of worrying about bothering an athiest. i understand your point, but i hadnt meant to take it to the extreme. just questioning.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    and with extraordinary claims, they require extraordinary proof.


    Its not extra claims they are common sense claims. When you have god and godly morals in your schools and life then the chances of these negative things happeing immensely decline, and vice versa. Its simple as that. I cant beleive this is so hard for you to understand. So I guess in the last almost 400yrs when we have had godly morals in our school and all the sudden we took them out we have had a increase of all that which I have mentioned isnt proof or isnt evidentiary suppor tin itself? Well if its not then I really dont know how anything else can be?

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