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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by alex
    Just had to throw that in there, didn't you? LOL.
    Well, I mean, it's not.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Oh cmon kel, If you look at champs post he clled me one first. And if you read my post properly it says

    you are a typical bigotting lib
    I said bigotting not that he was a bigot. They are different. Its like me saying your lying. Now is that the same thing as calling you a liar? I think not.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    Oh cmon kel, If you look at champs post he clled me one first. And if you read my post properly it says



    I said bigotting not that he was a bigot. They are different. Its like me saying your lying. Now is that the same thing as calling you a liar? I think not.
    Dude you used it as an adjective. It'd be the same if you said I was a lying lib. Now that would be calling me a liar.

    And I calls em as I sees em. If you wanna report his post, feel free.
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    Judge: Pledge of Allegiance Ruled Unconstitutional

    Reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools was ruled unconstitutional Wednesday by a federal judge who granted legal standing to two families represented by an atheist who lost an earlier case heard by the U.S. Supreme Court. At that time, the Court ruled against the plaintiff on grounds that the plaintiff did not have legal standing to bring the case.

    Now U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton ruled that the pledge's reference to one nation "under God" violates school children's right to be "free from a coercive requirement to affirm God," and will sign an order making public school subject to the order.

    Karlton said he was bound by precedent of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which in 2002 ruled in favor of Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow that the pledge is unconstitutional when recited in public schools.

    Request from thread author: Let's make this more than what each of us personally would like or not like or how terrible or not terrible are the groups that support what we like or don't like. This is surely going to wind up with the Supreme Court again. I would like to see some well reasoned arguments for or against the Pledge of Allegiance as it now reads.

    Discuss
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Dude you used it as an adjective. It'd be the same if you said I was a lying lib. Now that would be calling me a liar.

    And I calls em as I sees em. If you wanna report his post, feel free.
    I already reported it. And exatly it was an adjective not what he is. Theres a difference between the 2. now i have brown hair is that all I am? Its just a deascriptive term. I wasnt name calling. Name calling is what ban electoral and billo does. I describe not name call

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    I already reported it. And exatly it was an adjective not what he is. Theres a difference between the 2. now i have brown hair is that all I am? Its just a deascriptive term. I wasnt name calling. Name calling is what ban electoral and billo does. I describe not name call
    God I hate arguing semantics.

    In the sentence "Skil is a stubborn, conservative person.", there are two adjectives...can you pick them out? You're both of them.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    In the sentence "Skil is a stubborn, conservative person.", there are two adjectives...can you pick them out? You're both of them.
    Hey at least i am stubborn for you, hehe. Call me what you want babe

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    Re: Judge: Pledge of Allegiance Ruled Unconstitutional

    I would first of all like to state that I am extremely displeased by this decision. It is my belief that taking away ones right of saying the pledge in school is as wrong. The fact that a few people disliked "under God" should not have been enough to persuade the courts. I say this because, the kids don't have to say it nor do they have to believe it. At my school, they teach the catholic religion. And, they do not force you to believe it or pronounce it, however, what they do require is that you can explain it.

    The fact of the matter is the Pledge of Allegiance has had the line "Under God" since 1954 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower approved adding the words. His reasoning behind this was, "In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war." http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofhe...fc_pledge.html

    The fact is, that line is part of our history, and you can not remove it that easily. An example that I use often is, a friend of mine who went to catholic school was not catholic. Because of this, he did not do the sign of the cross while the rest did. My point is, the people who do not believe in "under God" or wish to not say it, need not.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Liberal ideologues never seem to learn .The Liberal hack mayor of San Francisco was a help in the Re-election of President Bush .His illegal marrying of thousands of Gays on Tv was a help to the President.It galvanised Maybe hundreds of thousands of christians to come out and vote Republican. Oh yes toight on TV this same Liberal ideologue mentioned .That as mayor of San Francisco no Earthquake proofing of any major structure in San Francisco has been done,not one.
    Gay Marriage he worries about. Public safety not so important.
    Now we have a very liberal judge who gives those supporting judge Roberts appoinment a gift. He couldn't have timed it any better. When Repulicans are saying how moderate and Traditional a jurist he is and how danerous liberal judges are.This San Francisco leftist Judge shows the American People what they are talking about. I bet Kennedy and Finstine could clobber this judge.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    Thank you. Now I suppose the sore losing yank is going to call that bigotry and racism and prejudiceness too? World champs, you are a typical bigotting lib. When someone debacles your argument you result to racist, bigotry, andprejuceness comments. Your argumnet will not fly and has never flied on this forum I know casue I have debacled everyone of you arguments you wanna know how I know? Cause in everyone of your ending comments it ends in a flamatory fassion. And its evident of this here again today. I cant beleive a father of a 18yr old lady is this DERROGATORY
    That is champs your going at it with? Give it up. He'll never concede. Even with solid proof. As pointed out in "The Great Monkey Fiasco". Located in the basement. Top ten Thread. Post # 57-58 I think. If interested I got more on him around here somewhere.

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