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  • Mentally disturbed.

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  • Slightly irregular.

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  • Self-Actualized.

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Thread: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    A lie a certain sect of society is trying to pass off as truth and anyone who points out the lie is an asshole.
    Don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure with therapy and maybe some corrective surgery you too can be fixed.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I think it's probably relatively harmless in most jobs, but teaching is another story. As far as I'm concerned a teacher teaching my preschooler that men can become women would be as offensive as teaching them all about God.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz View Post
    Oh, I see. Its like when the media tells me Britney Spears is important and I have to go along with it.

    FWIW, I don't see where anyone has to "go along with it" but the more I think about it I'm intrigued by the idea of having sex with a man that used to be a woman.
    It's not what it's cracked up to be.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post

    There's a lot that we need to stop teaching, actually. There are plenty of lies that we tell our children, especially in elementary.
    Agreed. Teachers, in particular teachers of young kids, do hold a certain power over the children. It diminishes as the child grows but it's very strong when they're young. My kids think their teachers words are golden. If their teacher told them something was true and it wasn't I would have to work very hard to convince them the teacher was mistaken. Young children aren't equipped to respectfully disagree. Hell even as an adult I'm not very good at it.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Why end it? We're actually getting somewhere...
    Okay, if you insist.

    I just think that while the delusion the transexual suffers may be very real in his/her mind, it is not reality. Reality is that the DNA imprint and the physical morphology dictate an absolute biological sex. That biological sex defines the physical gender of the transexual.
    There are women who have XY chromosomes in their DNA, as well as men who have XX chromosomes in their DNA. Which do we use to define the gender? The DNA or the penis?

    See, that's why I think it should be left for the individual to decide.

    Now they may sexually identify in any way they like or adopt any gender role they feel comfortable with. All of that is abstract and more a construct of society than anything else. Fine. But I do not think it is good for anyone involved to indulge the idea that that the physical/biological gender is anything more or can be anything other than what it is.

    If the transexual sexually identifies as an effeminate submissive who takes the passive position sexually with the male gender, then let them do that while wearing high heels for all anyone cares. It's their right, whatever.

    But it is an affront to reason and to rational sensibilities to suggest that the transexual, despite surgeries, hormones, and a plethora of tolerance and compassion is anything different than the physical gender it has been since birth.
    Going on the same lines as the XY women and XX men, since Transsexuals are an anomaly just like them, how can we decide their identity for them?

    What happens when even the biological gender is questionable?
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    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz View Post
    Don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure with therapy and maybe some corrective surgery you too can be fixed.


    The way the world is going nothing short of a frontal lobotomy is gonna help me muster up the amount of tolerance and PC-ness necessary to march along with the others.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It's not what it's cracked up to be.
    Details?
    Tell about it in the basement, if not here.




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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Okay, if you insist.



    There are women who have XY chromosomes in their DNA, as well as men who have XX chromosomes in their DNA. Which do we use to define the gender? The DNA or the penis?

    See, that's why I think it should be left for the individual to decide.



    Going on the same lines as the XY women and XX men, since Transsexuals are an anomaly just like them, how can we decide their identity for them?

    What happens when even the biological gender is questionable?
    I think that we might be arguing from two different fronts. I don't care what their identity is. Their identity is a matter of perception. Let anyone identify sexually any way they want because another reality is that it doesn't matter whether you let them or not, sexual identity is going express itself because it is one of the basest instincts in man. However, I don't think it's wise to try and alter realities to match identities that cross over into delusion.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The way the world is going nothing short of a frontal lobotomy is gonna help me muster up the amount of tolerance and PC-ness necessary to march along with the others.
    Oh well, whatever it takes.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Details?
    Tell about it in the basement, if not here.




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    I don't care, I've told it before. It happened back in Alaska and there was a lot, I mean a lot, of snow and alcohol involved. I hadn't actually been in Alaska very long and I went out to this bar called Darwin's Theory where I met another guy who had just gotten officially discharged that day and was all free to do whatever he wanted. So we ended up with a ball and were doing rails right on the table there at Darwin's and drinking a stack of Guinesses before we left and went to the gay bar Mad Myrna's (the guys wasn't gay, he was just pretty cool and we went to see the drag show).

    Now I'm like plowed and wide eyed...really wide eyed...and we're hanging out at the bar and this really really cute guy came and sat down beside me. I don't normally go for younger, waifish looking guys, but this one was adorable in a mischievous kinda way. I never saw it coming.

    We ended up back at my place and lights are off, at his insistence, and we're all making out groping and stuff and pants come off and I realize that it's really not right...something's just not right. I kinda think it's maybe the intoxicants in my system so I just try to shake it off and its not happening. So I pull back and say I want to have a cigarette and slow it down a little...when I light the cig lighter...IT WAS HORROR. It was PURE HORROR. It was a mishapen scar with a nipple. I backed away kinda slow, partially because I was being polite and partially because I was keeping my eye directly on it so I knew where it was at all times.

    And the "guy" says, "I hope it's alright...everyone knows, I thought you did too."

    I don't even know how to describe how awkward that situation became. I didn't know how to get across that it would've been ok with some notification just for the pure novelty of it, which, consequently, I is why I ended up doing it anyway after the initial shock and some time to say "hmmmm"...But it was a nightmare. It took me about 30 minutes to get over the total mind**** that caused before I could retrieve my libido and get back to business.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    We ended up back at my place and lights are off, at his insistence, and we're all making out groping and stuff and pants come off and I realize that it's really not right...something's just not right.


    "Not right" how?
    Did you see his actual dick?
    What did it look like?

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