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  • Mentally disturbed.

    39 39.00%
  • Slightly irregular.

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  • Perfectly normal.

    21 21.00%
  • Progressive.

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  • Self-Actualized.

    12 12.00%
  • Other (specify).

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Thread: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    I choose "other" because I don't give a **** and it ain't any of my damned business.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    What the hell even is transgender?

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    What the hell even is transgender?
    Someone who suffers from the socially enabled delusion that it's okay to mutilate your genitalia to fit a pretend perception of yourself.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Someone who suffers from the socially enabled delusion that it's okay to mutilate your genitalia to fit a pretend perception of yourself.
    So are you saying you know what's best for their genitalia and should be able to dictate the terms of use? Cause why isn't it ok for someone the "mutilate" their own genitalia if that's what they want to do?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    What the hell even is transgender?
    It's loosely defined as any form of gender bending. It could be a woman trying to break into a field of work considered mens work. If you ask my grandpop he thinks long haired guys who wear earrings are transgendered.

    For the purpose of this thread though I think we're talking about folks who are not happy with their male/female biological reality and thus aim to change it or create the illusion that it has changed.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So are you saying you know what's best for their genitalia and should be able to dictate the terms of use? Cause why isn't it ok for someone the "mutilate" their own genitalia if that's what they want to do?
    I don't determine this. Medical ethics determines this. It is a pointless procedure meant to repair nothing. That goes against the grain of medical ethics just like cosmetic surgery, in my opinion.

    When the mind suffers a delusion, it makes no sense to cut off the penis to fix it.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So are you saying you know what's best for their genitalia and should be able to dictate the terms of use? Cause why isn't it ok for someone the "mutilate" their own genitalia if that's what they want to do?
    Cause it's self destructive, irrational, and pointless. Should drs. really be paid to deal with mental illness in a way that's self destructive? Should the anorexic be allowed to starve under the guidance of a dr? Should drs. be cutting into the breasts of healthy women and stuffing them with balloons? Should drs. get paid for **** like what some witch dr. did to Michael Jacksons face?

    Drs. should be held accountable for what they do.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't determine this. Medical ethics determines this. It is a pointless procedure meant to repair nothing. That goes against the grain of medical ethics just like cosmetic surgery, in my opinion.

    When the mind suffers a delusion, it makes no sense to cut off the penis to fix it.
    Not to you or I, but who made you king of genitalia? If someone wants to lop it off, why can't they? It's theirs is it not? Medical ethics prevents one from allowing people to die who could have been saved; not performing surgery which could improve the emotional state and well being of a patient.

    Just cause you don't like it doesn't necessarily make it any of your business.
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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not to you or I, but who made you king of genitalia? If someone wants to lop it off, why can't they? It's theirs is it not? Medical ethics prevents one from allowing people to die who could have been saved; not performing surgery which could improve the emotional state and well being of a patient.

    Just cause you don't like it doesn't necessarily make it any of your business.
    Hey Ikari...did you forget something? This is a debate sight...not congress. No one is legislating what people can do with their genitalia here...just offering our thoughts on the situation. Can you do that too? Because honestly, this whole line of attack that offering an opinion on the topic is somehow making me a genitalia nazi is getting old already.

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    Re: Transgendered. Insane or Misunderstood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not to you or I, but who made you king of genitalia? If someone wants to lop it off, why can't they? It's theirs is it not? Medical ethics prevents one from allowing people to die who could have been saved; not performing surgery which could improve the emotional state and well being of a patient.

    Just cause you don't like it doesn't necessarily make it any of your business.
    That's my point. There's no proof that it does improve the emotional state or well being of the patient.

    In fact studies show plastic surgery doesn't do that, not by far. People who undergo drastic plastic surgery are statistically more unhappy than the general population and the unhappiness statistically doesn't change post-op because when the body was pathologically healthy the unhappiness was mental thus not amendable to correction with a knife.

    If these drs are not statistically improving the well being of their patients then what are they doing?

    In my mind they're exploiting mental illness for profit. Selling illusions for dollars without ever having the intention of resolving the real problem - the mental dysphoria. Preying on the weak. These drs. in all likelihood are causing more harm than good.

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