At last, I thought, you and I were going to finally discuss something where you don't talk thru your ass. Your post come off as insensitive, pompous, and childish.
It seems every time I encounter you, you just want to revert back to this childishness. Again, I am robbed of a meaningful conversation with you. If you wish to discuss this like adults, cease the childishness.
jallman, here are your comments from an earlier post:
Note numbers 3 and 5. You indicate stress and anguish about being in the wrong body. This is consistent with the diagnosis.1) There must be evidence of a strong and persistent cross-gender identification.
2) This cross-gender identification must not merely be a desire for any perceived cultural advantages of being the other sex.
3) There must also be evidence of persistent discomfort about one's assigned sex or a sense of inappropriateness in the gender role of that sex.
4) The individual must not have a concurrent physical intersex condition (e.g., androgen insensitivity syndrome or congenital adrenal hyperplasia).
5) There must be evidence of clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
This is no "pretend" disorder. The distress is quite real and has a specific cause. Now, as I said before, teasing out someone with GID from someone who has other psychological problems that are manifesting themselves with psychosexual symptoms is important in making the diagnosis.
"Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run
Mace Windu: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Jedi Order is to survive.
What if someone is a man/woman born in a hermaphrodite's body?
Is there any documentation of that happening?
I'm a firm believer that if I can think of something, it's probably happened.
Originally Posted by Jerry
He asserted a "surgical solution" which involves manipulation/mutilation of ones genitals offers up a "pretend" delusion. The man who genuinely thinks he is in the wrong body cannot become a woman no matter how many surgical alterations he undergoes, no matter how many drugs he takes. No matter what he does he will still be a man, albeit an altered man. But a man nonetheless, not a woman. That's where the fantasy/pretend/delusion part comes into play. With surgery and hormones the aim is to get as close to the goal as possible so you can pretend you are in the "right" body. So you can pretend you are the right gender.
But you're not. You can't be. A man can't become a woman and vice versa. I'm sure the disorder is real. I'm sure there are folks who really feel like they are in the wrong body. But there's no surgical solution to that which doesn't involve fantasy and pretending, as Jallman said.
Last edited by talloulou; 10-21-08 at 11:03 AM.
These are solutions. Not "pretend" or "fantasy" things.
jallman: "It's all good. At least you have a thick skin and can take being poked fun back at without crying. "