Who has shown the best leadership in this hour of need?

MC.no.spin · 10-12-08, 02:04 AM

While I know there are many "blame Bush first" people in the crowd, I just wanted to express my opinion that he has done a very passing job up to this point in trying to handle this economic crisis, since it became known.

Today was the 22nd day in the past 27 he had spoken about the financial crisis, since evidence first arose that the year-old subprime mortgage mess was evolving into a broader and more calamitous meltdown.

He also was not afraid to back the proposal from the outset, while both candidates were initially apprehensive to take a controversial stand.

My order of who has shown the best leadership during this hour of need:

1) Bush
2) Obama
3) McCain

winston53660 · 10-12-08, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MC.no.spin

While I know there are many "blame Bush first" people in the crowd, I just wanted to express my opinion that he has done a very passing job up to this point in trying to handle this economic crisis, since it became known.

Today was the 22nd day in the past 27 he had spoken about the financial crisis, since evidence first arose that the year-old subprime mortgage mess was evolving into a broader and more calamitous meltdown.

He also was not afraid to back the proposal from the outset, while both candidates were initially apprehensive to take a controversial stand.

My order of who has shown the best leadership during this hour of need:

1) Bush
2) Obama
3) McCain

Oh she sh he also spoke about how everybody could have affordable health insurance, own a home and Iraq had WMDs. The guy is just flapping his lips again.

Kandahar · 10-12-08, 02:22 AM

Obama has been calm and collected. He hasn't taken any controversial stands, but that isn't necessarily a negative since he isn't president yet and doesn't need to. It isn't necessary because the conditions will almost certainly be different by the time he takes office, and it's not like the average voter has any idea of how to fix the economy anyway. The truth is that a lot of the best economists in the world disagree with each other on how to handle the crisis, so it's best that Obama not say anything that's going to cause the markets to tank.

...which brings us to Bush. Every time he opens his mouth to reassure us about the economy, the stock market nosedives. He should just stick to speaking through surrogates like Paulson and Bernanke, because that's the only way his administration can have any credibility. I would hesitate to say that he's done a good job of handling the crisis until it's over. Yes, he's offered a lot more concrete, seemingly-prudent ideas than Obama or McCain have...but the fact remains that none of them have worked. At least not yet.

McCain has been the worst of the three by far. He has been running around like a chicken with his head cut off since the crisis began, confirming the worst fears of many voters about his impulsiveness and inability to deal with the economy. He's admitted that he doesn't really understand the economy (and I wouldn't harp on that gaffe except for the fact that it's true). Some of the things he's proposed have obviously been thought up by his political advisers rather than his economic advisers. His call for Chris Cox to resign was nothing more than petty scapegoating, and the mortgage idea that he proposed during the debate was awful.

Cilogy · 10-12-08, 02:45 AM

I'm an Obama supporter, but Bush was able to atleast DO SOMETHING. McCain thought he could come save the day but he was wrong. Obama can't do anything either.

I hate this bailout plan, but atleast Bush was the first to show leadership, whether some Americans like the outcome or not. He made a (surprisingly) quick decision for his level of response.

Bush showed leadership, whether it was good or bad, but it was more "effective" (I guess?) than the others.

Cephus · 10-12-08, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cilogy

I hate this bailout plan, but atleast Bush was the first to show leadership, whether some Americans like the outcome or not. He made a (surprisingly) quick decision for his level of response.

Sorry, it's Bush's policies and lack of leadership that got us into this mess in the first place and the first thing he does when it becomes painfully obvious that he's got to something, primarily to give McCain any chance in hell at the White House, is simply to throw a bunch of money we don't have at the problem with no real explanation as to how it's going to help. Then he tries to ram-rod through a plan that *NOBODY* thinks is going to work, simply handing $700 billion over to Henry Paulson with no oversight and no legal repercussions if it doesn't work.

That's not quick decision, that's irrational and idiotic jumping into the fire.

Kernel Sanders · 10-12-08, 01:32 PM

All three support the bailout. None is any better than the others

Truth Detector · 10-13-08, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC.no.spin

While I know there are many "blame Bush first" people in the crowd, I just wanted to express my opinion that he has done a very passing job up to this point in trying to handle this economic crisis, since it became known.

Today was the 22nd day in the past 27 he had spoken about the financial crisis, since evidence first arose that the year-old subprime mortgage mess was evolving into a broader and more calamitous meltdown.

He also was not afraid to back the proposal from the outset, while both candidates were initially apprehensive to take a controversial stand.

My order of who has shown the best leadership during this hour of need:

1) Bush
2) Obama
3) McCain

I chose NONE OF THE ABOVE for the OBVIOUS reasons.

shuamort · 10-13-08, 04:43 PM

Since I am against the bailout, I think they all failed.

Bush=Pushed for it.
McCain="Suspended his campaign" and pushed for it.
Obama=Sat on his hands and didn't do anything except a vote.

I'm not sure what is worse, pushing for something stupid or just going along with it.

NoMoreDems-Reps · 10-13-08, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC.no.spin

While I know there are many "blame Bush first" people in the crowd, I just wanted to express my opinion that he has done a very passing job up to this point in trying to handle this economic crisis, since it became known.

Today was the 22nd day in the past 27 he had spoken about the financial crisis, since evidence first arose that the year-old subprime mortgage mess was evolving into a broader and more calamitous meltdown.

He also was not afraid to back the proposal from the outset, while both candidates were initially apprehensive to take a controversial stand.

My order of who has shown the best leadership during this hour of need:

1) Bush
2) Obama
3) McCain

Here's some of that leadership in our time of need that they have given us!

Taxpayers for Common Sense

If you support/vote these "CRIMINAL" you are committing a treasonous act
against America and it's Constitution!!!!!!

The Declaration of Independence

Ron Paul and Nader had better solutions to our problems!

Truth Detector · 10-13-08, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoreDems-Reps

Here's some of that leadership in our time of need that they have given us!

Taxpayers for Common Sense

If you support/vote these "CRIMINAL" you are committing a treasonous act
against America and it's Constitution!!!!!!

The Declaration of Independence

Ron Paul and Nader had better solutions to our problems!

Okay, who wants to tell Nomore that Ron Paul is not on the ticket and Nader has no chance; now what?