What was McCain's true motivation?

disneydude · 09-26-08, 01:37 PM

Was McCain's call to "suspend operations and postpone the debates:

A. A legitimate and honest call to set aside politics and focus on the needs of the country

B. Nothing more than a political ploy

C. A little of both

D. Neither

P/N · 09-26-08, 06:26 PM

No big surprise there. Four liberals vote for "political ploy", I mean it couldn't have been that it was a legitimate and honest call to make, not if he's "the enemy".

Don't get me wrong, it was a ploy, but I also believe it was the right move. He risked a lot by doing what he did, but I find it hard to believe that there wasn't sincerity and concern behind his decision either.

disneydude · 09-26-08, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by P/N

No big surprise there. Four liberals vote for "political ploy", I mean it couldn't have been that it was a legitimate and honest call to make, not if he's "the enemy".

Don't get me wrong, it was a ploy, but I also believe it was the right move. He risked a lot by doing what he did, but I find it hard to believe that there wasn't sincerity and concern behind his decision either.

Thanks for your response. Personally, I think it was nothing more than a ploy....ala....McCain trying to "punk" Obama like his earlier call to visit Iraq, for example.

However, I do appreciate your thoughts and am interested in what others on this site think.

Cephus · 09-26-08, 08:00 PM

It was a ploy, pure and simple. McCain was hoping that by refusing to debate, he'd be able to reschedule the debate, dsplacing the Biden/Palin debate. The Republicans do not want Palin anywhere near the media, they don't want the world seeing what a complete idiot she is.

However, once it became clear that Obama would end up with an hour and a half of unopposed airtime if McCain didn't show up, he caved in and jumped on a plane.

tryreading · 09-27-08, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by disneydude

Was McCain's call to "suspend operations and postpone the debates:

A. A legitimate and honest call to set aside politics and focus on the needs of the country

B. Nothing more than a political ploy

C. A little of both

D. Neither

The obvious evidence that it was a political ploy is that John McCain attended the debate, which he said he wouldn't with no bail out plan, even though he had no positive effect on the bail out process in Washington, and its passage was still up in the air on debate day.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 09-27-08, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephus

It was a ploy, pure and simple. McCain was hoping that by refusing to debate, he'd be able to reschedule the debate, dsplacing the Biden/Palin debate. The Republicans do not want Palin anywhere near the media, they don't want the world seeing what a complete idiot she is.

However, once it became clear that Obama would end up with an hour and a half of unopposed airtime if McCain didn't show up, he caved in and jumped on a plane.

what would obama do with an hour and a half air time.

Hatuey · 09-27-08, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by P/N

Don't get me wrong, it was a ploy, but I also believe it was the right move. He risked a lot by doing what he did, but I find it hard to believe that there wasn't sincerity and concern behind his decision either.

.....or maybe it was a political ploy that backfired on him. Imagine if Obama had done this. We'd be hearing up and down about how bad a leader he'd make because he chose to do one thing when he could have done another. Anybody remember how Obama could possibly have the audacity to go speak in front of Germans when he could have been visiting the troops. Oh the poor troops who get used like stock image orphans for Amnesty International when it's suitable. The poor troops who never get visits from anybody. Ever. Good Gosh I never thought I'd see the end of that. McCain has now done essentially the same thing and it couldn't possibly be solely because he had something to gain from making it look like he had a damn clue as to what is going on in the economy when the cameras were watching. It's like he decided he'd go rescue the economy, realized he didn't know **** about it and then thought it might be a better idea to go to the debates where a broader game field was available. Oh well.

sazerac · 09-28-08, 12:57 AM

Bob Schieffer of The Early Show reported that Secretary Paulson was in a panic with the republicans and asked for McCain to come to Washington and help him.

So next thing you hear is that an agreement is a done deal and that there is no need for McCain to halt his campaign and go to Washington. McCain gets a lot of criticism.

But then we find out there in no agreement at all. McCain was right. And they were going to proceed with this massive bailout bill without the future president involved (Obama or McCain)?

I'd like to know what all actually happened.

Zyphlin · 09-28-08, 01:04 AM

"A little of each" doesn't really fit me but I voted for that as I do bleieve its some of both. I think political stunt was more, but I do believe he felt he could perhaps help push forward something or do things needed in regards to the final bill. So both, but political stunt more so

rsixing · 09-28-08, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by P/N

No big surprise there. Four liberals vote for "political ploy", I mean it couldn't have been that it was a legitimate and honest call to make, not if he's "the enemy".

Don't get me wrong, it was a ploy, but I also believe it was the right move. He risked a lot by doing what he did, but I find it hard to believe that there wasn't sincerity and concern behind his decision either.

Hey that's what happens when you spit in the wind. It flies right back in your face. McCain stepped on his dick...big time.

Oh, and wtf, you gripe about four liberals who voted his motivation was a ploy and then you state it was a ploy? **** man...that is just lame.