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Old 09-25-08, 09:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What is more important, JUSTICE or FORGIVENESS?

Simple question. Given a choice between one or the other, assuming they are mutually exclusive, which is more important?
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Old 09-25-08, 09:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: What is more important, JUSTICE or FORGIVENESS?

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Simple question. Given a choice between one or the other, assuming they are mutually exclusive, which is more important?
Justice is more important to me. Someone will never learn their lesson if they are only given forgiveness and there is no justice.
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Re: What is more important, JUSTICE or FORGIVENESS?

Justice? For whom? The law? The victim? The accused? If a rape victims feels the only right way to carry out justice is for her rapist to be executed is that just because of the position the victim is in? If she feels the rapist made a mistake should he be forgiven and no longer punished? The answer is way too vague for me to answer correctly.
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Re: What is more important, JUSTICE or FORGIVENESS?

I agree with hatuey.

What is the degree of infraction? For whom is justice being served? How is justice being served. How is justice being determined. Is vengeance a form of justice in the hypothetical reality?

All of these details would change my answer. For example, if my wife commits a minor indiscretion, For example not replacing the roll of toilet paper in the bathroom after she uses the last bit so that I am forced to duck-walk out to the hall closet while "unclean" all the while hoping that no dingle-berries drop free in order to get a roll for myself, then forgivenesses is probably more important that justice.

Now, if she were to kill me because a dingle-berry fell and soiled the rug, Justice is far more important than forgiveness.
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All of these details would change my answer. For example, if my wife commits a minor indiscretion, For example not replacing the roll of toilet paper in the bathroom after she uses the last bit so that I am forced to duck-walk out to the hall closet while "unclean" all the while hoping that no dingle-berries drop free in order to get a roll for myself, then forgivenesses is probably more important that justice.
The assumption would be that as the degree of offense increases, so does the degree of justice or forgiveness.

Sure, forgiving your wife is easy for such a small "offense", but that also means that justice would also be proportionate. In that case, justice could be viewed as the same thing happening to her.

Would you really prefer to deny yourself the opportunity to witness her own duck-walk down the hall just so you could forgive her?
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Re: What is more important, JUSTICE or FORGIVENESS?

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The assumption would be that as the degree of offense increases, so does the degree of justice or forgiveness.

Sure, forgiving your wife is easy for such a small "offense", but that also means that justice would also be proportionate. In that case, justice could be viewed as the same thing happening to her.

Would you really prefer to deny yourself the opportunity to witness her own duck-walk down the hall just so you could forgive her?
Well, to be fair, the question wasn't which is more satisfying. It was which is more important. Obviously I would prefer to see the duck walk. But for the sake of my marriage, it is more important to forgive her.
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Old 09-25-08, 02:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: What is more important, JUSTICE or FORGIVENESS?

I ended up choosing Forgivness based on what I thought Jesus would do, since the question was kind of vauge. Jesus came to forgive the entire world for every sin they've ever committed so who are we to not forgive other people? Justice will be served to those who do not want his forgivness.

As for everyday life though, both justice and forgivness should be used at the same time, again, like God will do. He can do both and so should we. That's what I think anyway. ^^
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Re: What is more important, JUSTICE or FORGIVENESS?

Forgiveness and education. Justice is nice, but it is often perverted into some form of authoratative rule. Learning and forgiving, accepting others and understanding that all have rights that should be respected is much better than any vauge sense of justice. Also, as stated by Southern Belle, I'd figure the "forgiveness" was actually the Christian answer. Those whom would really claim a form of Christianity would have to take forgiveness, it's the cornerstone of their belief structure.
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Re: What is more important, JUSTICE or FORGIVENESS?

It's a vague question but circumstances aside I'd say forgiveness is more important. There's healing and redemption in forgiveness. When a person is able to "let go" in forgiveness they have reached a point where all the baggage, pain, and tragedy can just be put down and walked away from. It's good for the soul.
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I ended up with justice. Selfishly, forgiveness is good for the soul - but justice is more likely to change behavior.
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