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    If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill...........................

    Lets say if it was possible to rehabilitate every criminal and make them feel remorse with a single pill and there were no chances of relapses,should criminals be given the pill and released immediately back into society/not have to serve out a punishment or should they still serve out what ever punishment the courts gave them

    I believe rehabilitation is one of the goals of the prison system,but not a priority.Punishment is the main priority of the justice system,deterrence of criminal activity is the second priority.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Is the pill cyanide?

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    If criminal activity could be cured completely then why on earth would we imprison people? Society could certainly find better uses for the monies that would be saved by not having to build and staff prisons, feed and cloth prisoners and funding programs that end up helping the spouse and children make ends meet while they are unable to support their families.

    BTW, I put my actions where my mouth is on this. I fought hard to keep the young man that hit us head-on while on drugs from going to prison after he rehab'ed himself. While I am permanently disabled as a result of this accident, permanently wrecking his life as well would serve no useful purpose. He will contribute a lot to society during his lifetime as a result of having turned his life around.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    .....If the criminal wants to take it. Sure and then on account of that his/her sentence should be reduced. If he doesn't. Why should he? He'll just keep going back to jail.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    My mom was on that pill and look how I turned out...

    Alright, since there's no pill that could ever do such a thing (chemical castration has been proven to be ineffective), I'm guessing that this is just a "what if" scenario.

    The way I understood the penal system was to prevent folks from committing the crime in the first place. This has been an argument stated by those in favor of the death penalty. So, now a deterrent would be just a pill?

    I would assume that if such a pill existed that it would behoove society to innoculate/vaccinate its citizen pre-crime. Why not have the whole of society take the pill if its effective?

    Sorry, I'm getting bogged down in the logistics of the pill itself here.

    As for the argument, there is a social need to see criminals get their come-uppance. Take for instance, Kohlberg's level of moral development. The base line is the old biblical adage "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth". We are driven as adults to grow higher up the ladder and become what could be considered "Christ-like" and "turn the other cheek". So is that where we as a society should strive to? If we administered the pill, should we still seek retribution and take the tooth which was taken from us. OR should we as a society try to be "Christ-lie" and forgive those who trespassed against us and re-admit the perpertrator into society post-pill?

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    If criminal activity could be cured completely then why on earth would we imprison people?
    You do the crime you do the time.



    BTW, I put my actions where my mouth is on this. I fought hard to keep the young man that hit us head-on while on drugs from going to prison after he rehab'ed himself. While I am permanently disabled as a result of this accident, permanently wrecking his life as well would serve no useful purpose. He will contribute a lot to society during his lifetime as a result of having turned his life around.
    I think your sympathy is misplaced,hopefully that individual does not waste it.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Unless the pill caused amnesia, I would still be for prison.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    If the crime was related to legit ailment from which they were suffering and the pill is an effective cure I don't see why not in theory.

    Legislative wise though it's a mess to try to get professional consensus in regards to mental illnesses and pills don't magically fix most mental illnesses in a guaranteed way that can be relied upon.

    But in a fairyland where "no chance of relapse" is a sure thing it would be unimaginable to keep them locked up.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    If the crime was related to legit ailment from which they were suffering and the pill is an effective cure I don't see why not in theory.

    Legislative wise though it's a mess to try to get professional consensus in regards to mental illnesses and pills don't magically fix most mental illnesses in a guaranteed way that can be relied upon.

    But in a fairyland where "no chance of relapse" is a sure thing it would be unimaginable to keep them locked up.
    Have you ever heard of a hypothetical question?
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    What constitutes rehabilitation?
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