View Poll Results: Should criminals be released(no prison)if rehabilitation came in the form of a pill?

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Thread: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill...........................

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonslayer View Post
    Has someone found an anti-psychopathic pill? If they have, give George, Newt, Rove and Dick in Washington DC. some to take daily.

    No forget it, they will never be human.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter
    The purpose of incarceration is to protect people from criminals who are likely to commit additional criminal acts. There is nothing to be gained by incarcerating a 90 year old who is very unlikely to do anything harmful. That would be revenge rather than justice. If he is a good citizen and friend, forgive him. Let him answer to the Lord. However, if he commits a crime and is a threat to others, then throw him into jail.
    So you don't think that there should be consequences to a person's actions?
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Is the pill cyanide?
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Lets say if it was possible to rehabilitate every criminal and make them feel remorse with a single pill and there were no chances of relapses,should criminals be given the pill and released immediately back into society/not have to serve out a punishment or should they still serve out what ever punishment the courts gave them

    I believe rehabilitation is one of the goals of the prison system,but not a priority.Punishment is the main priority of the justice system,deterrence of criminal activity is the second priority.
    In a 7th season episode of Star Trek: Voyager, 7of9 uses her Borg nano probes to treat brain injury a remorseless murderer acquired from an assault from a guard.

    The nano probes did more than repair the injury; they repaired the neurological defect that caused his criminal nature. As a result, the murderer was a new man. He became sick at the mere memory of his crimes.

    Granted, this was all fiction, but it may be news for some people that Sci-Fi is about more than aliens, space craft and lasers.

    That episode gave me pause for thought about this exact issue you bring up here.

    My opinion: 7of9 can use her nano probes on me any day-er, I mean....when rehabilitation is achieved, the prisoner is no longer a threat to society and should be released. Also, true remorse and having honestly changed makes one worthy of forgiveness from the victim and the victim's family.


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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    I decided to resurrect this poll instead of making a new one.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I decided to resurrect this poll instead of making a new one.
    And I still don't see why they shouldn't be released, if they're completely rehabilitated and no longer a threat to anyone. Locking them up in a cage is the default sentence for one reason, and one reason only: It removes them from society so they can't hurt anyone else. If they aren't going to do that, there's no reason to lock them up in a cage.

    Now, this in no way relieves them of their civil obligations to their victims. If a victim wants to sue the criminal, they should most definitely be able to collect damages, even if the criminal has been rehabilitated.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And I still don't see why they shouldn't be released, if they're completely rehabilitated and no longer a threat to anyone. Locking them up in a cage is the default sentence for one reason, and one reason only: It removes them from society so they can't hurt anyone else. If they aren't going to do that, there's no reason to lock them up in a cage.

    Now, this in no way relieves them of their civil obligations to their victims. If a victim wants to sue the criminal, they should most definitely be able to collect damages, even if the criminal has been rehabilitated.
    This is what I thought, and how I voted.

    However, I voted too soon; upon thinking about it, I changed my mind.

    If there's no punishment involved, where's the disincentive? If there is none, people will just steal until they're rich, then when they're caught, hey, they just take a pill and no harm done right?

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    They should of course still serve out some punishment, though I don't know if it should be the same term as they otherwise would have received.

    Think about it for a second - if you simply got the pill and were released, why on earth would you not break the law until you got caught?

    If you hated someone, you could murder them knowing that even if you got caught you'd just get the pill and be back out on the street tomorrow. You'd be back out there and they'd be out of the way. Civil damages don't make up for that, especially if the perpetrator is poor.

    Similarly, everyone would try to rob/steal. If you get away, you've got the money. If not, oh well, you're back on the street without any civil damages to speak of.

    Prison serves lots of purposes - one of those is deterrence.

    edit: I see I was not the first to come up with this unique and altogether brilliant point.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    This is what I thought, and how I voted.

    However, I voted too soon; upon thinking about it, I changed my mind.

    If there's no punishment involved, where's the disincentive? If there is none, people will just steal until they're rich, then when they're caught, hey, they just take a pill and no harm done right?
    They could also rape, murder, commit armed robbery and other crimes as long as they can get away with it and if caught only worry a pill.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And I still don't see why they shouldn't be released, if they're completely rehabilitated and no longer a threat to anyone. Locking them up in a cage is the default sentence for one reason, and one reason only: It removes them from society so they can't hurt anyone else. If they aren't going to do that, there's no reason to lock them up in a cage.
    The point of prison is punishment.
    Now, this in no way relieves them of their civil obligations to their victims. If a victim wants to sue the criminal, they should most definitely be able to collect damages, even if the criminal has been rehabilitated.

    Why should the victims have to spend any effort,time or money on their part to get justice done? The only thing letting scum go after taking pill would do is increase or make vigilante justice skyrocket. Because some scumbag going "but I'm "cured" or "I'm rehabilitated" while serving no time or barely any time is going to piss off the family of murder and rape victims.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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