View Poll Results: Should criminals be released(no prison)if rehabilitation came in the form of a pill?

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Thread: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill...........................

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    What i find informative through this debate is that you think all criminals have something wrong with them.Your missing the point of how advantages it is to break the law if you get away with it.

    I have always been of the opinion Al capone would be a bill gates if he could.
    This is a good point. But it varies from one criminal to another.

    I think that most normal people are fully capable of committing some serious crimes, depending on their life circumstances. I also think that most criminals could be "normal people" if their life circumstances were different.

    However, there are a few that are just psychotic or have other personality defects that mean that they actually *do* have something wrong with them. I assumed that these were the people that we were talking about.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Many scumbag sympathizers think criminals should be treated like someone with a illness that needs to be cured and released with no regard for the victims.
    It depends on the crime and the criminal. Chances are, someone who steals your TV doesn't really have anything "wrong" with them, other than they wanted your TV. On the other hand, some serial rapist/killer who dresses as the Joker while committing his crimes probably has some psychosis.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by Scucca View Post
    Technically, deterrence means you shouldn't let them out. Knowledge of the 'pill release' is likely to increase the attractiveness of crime amongst the potential criminals.
    Not likely. Assuming that the person couldn't "profit" from the crime (because they would come to regret it and not want to repeat it), there would be little justification for them to commit it in the first place.

    Most crimes against person/property (I'm excluding drug offenses here) are committed because the offender believes he will benefit from committing the crime in some way. The "pill release" would remove that benefit, thus negating the reason to commit the crime at all.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    There are not in prison for treatment,they are in prison as a punishment I.E. loss of freedom and rights for committing a heinous act. It doesn't matter if they are harmless anymore,if they feel remorse or what ever it doesn't change the fact they did something to wind up behind bars. It amazes me how you scumbag sympathizers have no regard for the victims and their families.
    Umm curing the offender would be showing the highest regard for the victims, by ensuring their weren't any MORE victims.

    Your concept of "punishment" sounds a lot like revenge. This isn't surprising to me, given your other totalitarian tendencies, but it does beg one important question: Just what is the point of "punishment"? What does punishing someone accomplish?

    In my opinion, punishment accomplishes two things: 1) It deters the offender and other people from committing the same crime again, 2) It removes the offender from society for a certain period of time in which they are not able to re-offend.

    Neither of those two things would be relevant if the person were completely "cured."
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Of course. Why bother with prison if not to rehabilitate?
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    jamesrage does not know what 'rehabilitate' means.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Maybe one pill, however that is not possible. But still, when you screw up, you are illegally selling pills and all, you need to pay the price. If rehab comes with one pill, great, but still, the person who committed the crime needs to pay for that crime.

    If it were possible, I would be encouraged; however, given our situation at this time, I think we are doing the best we can at this point with relevance to this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I believe this issue has already been explored thoroughly in Anthony Burgess's "A Clockwork Orange".
    If it were possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill, it would be unethical to do so. Even if they agreed to such a scheme, there would be passive coercion involved, ie the hope of leniency or early release.

    If such a pill were available, the only way it would be ethical to use it would be if it were made available to anyone in the free world who wanted it (in other words, not to prisoners).
    In other words, people who had not been arrested and imprisoned for crimes but nevertheless felt they would benefit from taking such a pill would be allowed to request one.
    And even then, I feel the ethicality is questionable. You're talking about removing a person's free will, which some argue is all that makes us human.
    Meh, that was just a movie. Assuming that a person had the option to serve their sentence OR take the pill (rather than being forced to take it), I don't see what the problem would be.

    It wouldn't be depriving them of their free will, any moreso than being raised in an environment that discourages crime is depriving people of their free will.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Meh, that was just a movie.
    Anthony Burgess's "A Clockwork Orange" was "just a movie".

    okay.

    It was a classic novel with deep social and ethical implications.
    It's taught in colleges and universities around the world. So I'm told.

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Anthony Burgess's "A Clockwork Orange" was "just a movie".

    okay.

    It was a classic novel with deep social and ethical implications.
    It's taught in colleges and universities around the world. So I'm told.
    Still, just a work of fiction. Why would it be immoral to make people not want to commit crimes? Good parents do that all the time.
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