View Poll Results: Should criminals be released(no prison)if rehabilitation came in the form of a pill?

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Thread: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill...........................

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Lets say if it was possible to rehabilitate every criminal and make them feel remorse with a single pill and there were no chances of relapses,should criminals be given the pill and released immediately back into society/not have to serve out a punishment or should they still serve out what ever punishment the courts gave them

    I believe rehabilitation is one of the goals of the prison system,but not a priority.Punishment is the main priority of the justice system,deterrence of criminal activity is the second priority.
    Of course they should be released if they were completely "cured." The whole point of punishment IS deterrence! What the hell is the point of keeping harmless people in prison on the taxpayer's dime?
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Have you ever heard of a hypothetical question?
    Sure but once they border on being outlandish there's little point in such thought experiments.

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Of course they should be released if they were completely "cured." The whole point of punishment IS deterrence! What the hell is the point of keeping harmless people in prison on the taxpayer's dime?
    Technically, deterrence means you shouldn't let them out. Knowledge of the 'pill release' is likely to increase the attractiveness of crime amongst the potential criminals.

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    If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................
    I believe this issue has already been explored thoroughly in Anthony Burgess's "A Clockwork Orange".
    If it were possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill, it would be unethical to do so. Even if they agreed to such a scheme, there would be passive coercion involved, ie the hope of leniency or early release.

    If such a pill were available, the only way it would be ethical to use it would be if it were made available to anyone in the free world who wanted it (in other words, not to prisoners).
    In other words, people who had not been arrested and imprisoned for crimes but nevertheless felt they would benefit from taking such a pill would be allowed to request one.
    And even then, I feel the ethicality is questionable. You're talking about removing a person's free will, which some argue is all that makes us human.

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    What i find informative through this debate is that you think all criminals have something wrong with them.Your missing the point of how advantages it is to break the law if you get away with it.

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    What i find informative through this debate is that you think all criminals have something wrong with them.
    Many scumbag sympathizers think criminals should be treated like someone with a illness that needs to be cured and released with no regard for the victims.


    Your missing the point of how advantages it is to break the law if you get away with it.
    People also seem to miss the fact that vigilante justice would be on the rise.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by Scucca View Post
    Technically, deterrence means you shouldn't let them out. Knowledge of the 'pill release' is likely to increase the attractiveness of crime amongst the potential criminals.
    I actually agree with you on something.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Lets say if it was possible to rehabilitate every criminal and make them feel remorse with a single pill and there were no chances of relapses,should criminals be given the pill and released immediately back into society/not have to serve out a punishment or should they still serve out what ever punishment the courts gave them

    I believe rehabilitation is one of the goals of the prison system,but not a priority.Punishment is the main priority of the justice system,deterrence of criminal activity is the second priority.
    They should be given the pill and THEN forced to serve out the remainder of their sentence.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Of course they should be released if they were completely "cured." The whole point of punishment IS deterrence! What the hell is the point of keeping harmless people in prison on the taxpayer's dime?
    There are not in prison for treatment,they are in prison as a punishment I.E. loss of freedom and rights for committing a heinous act. It doesn't matter if they are harmless anymore,if they feel remorse or what ever it doesn't change the fact they did something to wind up behind bars. It amazes me how you scumbag sympathizers have no regard for the victims and their families.
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    Re: If it was possible to rehabilitate criminals with one pill.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    There are not in prison for treatment,they are in prison as a punishment I.E. loss of freedom and rights for committing a heinous act. It doesn't matter if they are harmless anymore,if they feel remorse or what ever it doesn't change the fact they did something to wind up behind bars. It amazes me how you scumbag sympathizers have no regard for the victims and their families.
    I agree, this is what Scucca could not get during the Death Penalty debate.
    It is not about revenge or emotion or anything else other than, if you commit a crime, you get the punishment attached to it as well. It is the crime that is the point... what happens after the crime is irrelevant. That is all. That is it. People try to make more out of punishment than there is, and THAT is the problem.
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