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Old 08-23-08, 08:25 PM   #1
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Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

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Close to one of every 10 Wal-Mart employees is getting health insurance paid for by Arizona taxpayers, according to figures obtained Friday from the state.

The nearly 2,700 Wal-Mart workers represent about 1.9 percent of working people who are getting benefits from the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System.
Yet Another State Finds Wal-Mart Tops Medicaid Rolls

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At the same time, the nation's largest private employer, based in Bentonville, Ark., also noted that less than half of its 1.3 million workers -- 47.4 percent -- are enrolled in Wal-Mart's own health program, despite recent changes that offer broader eligibility and low-cost policies.

More than 22 percent of Wal-Mart employees get their health care through their spouse's employer, 8.7 percent are covered through government programs such as Medicare, Medicaid or the military, and nearly 10 percent go without any health insurance, based on the fall 2006 enrollment period. California-specific figures aren't available.
Most workers at Wal-Mart insured; half avoid its plan / Many get health coverage through spouse or government, but nearly 10% go without it

Wal-Mart renders huge costs savings from having taxpayers pick up the medical bills for their employees.

Should employers be allowed to do this? And if so, is there a point where they should not be?
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Re: Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

What do you mean by socialize?
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Re: Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

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What do you mean by socialize?
Have the taxpayers pick up the bill.
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Re: Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

I'm not sure I understand... how does Wal Mart force their employees to go on govt healthcrap - I mean, healthcare? They offer a group plan, some choose not to use it. How is that Wal Mart's fault?
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Re: Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

Does it matter? Its either the government or the private business. At least private buinesses are seemingly to be more efficient in that field. Hell, why do you think there is hardly anyone in labour unions anymore.
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Re: Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

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Wal-Mart renders huge costs savings from having taxpayers pick up the medical bills for their employees.

Should employers be allowed to do this?
Yes, in fact it should be encouraged. We need to decouple health insurance from employers. That creates an enormous economic inefficiency, because some people will stay in a job that they hate or suck at, just for the health care benefits.
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Yes, in fact it should be encouraged. We need to decouple health insurance from employers. That creates an enormous economic inefficiency, because some people will stay in a job that they hate or suck at, just for the health care benefits.
So it's good for the taxpayers to pay for the medical of such employees?
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So it's good for the taxpayers to pay for the medical of such employees?
Yes........
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Re: Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

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Yes........
I take it you favor Universal Healthcare?

You're in the company of Wal-Mart.

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- In a partnership of unlikely allies, Wal-Mart's CEO, other corporate leaders and the head of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) called Wednesday for universal health care coverage for all Americans by 2012.
Wal-Mart, union*join to advocate universal health care - Feb. 7, 2007
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Re: Should private firms be allowed to socialize their medical costs?

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I take it you favor Universal Healthcare?
Its the efficient choice. The likes of Walmart can be controlled via the likes of minimum wage provision
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