An IQ of 140 to 150, the category most popular on this poll, ranges anywhere from one in two hundred to one in two thousand. Just counting Americans... that's between one hundred fifty thousand and one and a half million people. How many people chose that answer on our poll? Twelve, so far.
Worth noting, that is the highest that most standardized IQ tests are capable of reliably measuring. There's a good chance that at least one of those twelve is actually underestimating themselves.
An IQ of 164, as I scored (at least) at twelve, occurs in one out of every one hundred thousand individuals. Means there are 2,999 other Americans out there with the intellectual potential I once had, which forces me to wonder how many of them lived up to that potential, and how many were neglected, stifled, and then discarded by our society as I was.
I have to take extra medication on days when I think about that too much. Out of every one hundred dollars spent on Special Education in the United States, children like me get three ****ing cents.
Take the entire world's population, and statistically, there should be some two hundred and fifty thousand honestly qualified to give the highest answer on this poll. It doesn't strain the credibility too much to believe that we might have accidentally gathered three of them, even if we have our doubts about the specific individuals concerned.
We also let them do "grown up things" like talk to adults instead of adults asking me their age, I say to ask my girls and then big conversations ensue... they do much of the shopping, task oriented stuff that they love, like paying and getting the reciept and organizing the cart after getting the items... letting them think theings out and come to their own conclusions and then supporting them and guiding them towards the appropriate conclusion... **** like that. Our girls are like a few other kids around here. Leaders. Both. One is introverted, the other extroverted. Both leaders and confident. Martial arts starts soon! Confidence builder.
Incorrect. Small children have no FORMAL education, but they definitely receive an education. It comes from parents/ siblings etc.
When you see the little kid who can name all fifty states at 2 years old, I guarantee you that kid didn't lick that information off of the ground. She was TUAGHT it by sombody. Most likely her parents.
The test is definitely not "racist". It's innanimate.
But even if it were capable of cognition and an abilty to discern morphological differences (Both necessary traits in order to be racist), the evidence still does not suggest racism since there are many people who score very high regardless of race.
Where the differences can be found is not in Racial distinctions, but socio-economic distinctions. People of a lower socio-economic tier have lower averages than people of a higher socio-economic tier.
Now there are multiple possibilities for these differences. The test does not imply that there is a racial differnce at all when adjusted for socio-economic factors.
Now, these data that you cited also coincided with a rise in socio-ecoomic status for blacks because they are no longer being falsely held back based on arbitrary distinctions, but like anything, change doesn't happen over night.
The fact that as the conditions outside of the test improve for a group their scores improve is total and complete proof that there is no racial distinction being made.
Nor is the test "classist". It is simply a measuring tool. There are so many factors that go into beiogn in that lower socio-economic tier that affect IQ scores that simply disregarding the test as "classist" becasuse of a REAL correlation is folly.
The class distinctions are more likely caused by societal differences along with other outside factors that would naturally cause lower IQ's to have a natural overrepresentation in the lower tiers.
The problem is not the natural gravitation of naturally lower intellects, but it is the FALSE holding down of naturally greater intellects (this can be caused by racist social policies like Jim Crow, discrimination based on arbitrary distinctions, cutlural pressures to feign stupidity, etc.)
But the test works wonderfully as a measure of progress in minimizing the ga for "equality of opportunity" over time.
But, that being said, there will ALWAYS be an oportunity gap based on socio-economic tier. Money more easily opens the "doors to opportunity". That doesn't mean the "doors to opportunity" are always closed to the lower tiers.
It just means that the "crowbar of ambition" needs to be used from time to time.
It only took 2 games to learn that lesson, tho.
We have 7 grandkids, live close to 4 of them. The youngest, a girl, is quite aggressive when it comes to wanting to win, so she does often. The boys are more mellow and don't care who wins most of the time. I see that as being very mature for their age, that or not wanting little sister to pitch a fit when she loses.
My wife is a retired teacher and can make comparisons to the 8th graders she used to teach, and she says our grandkids are all operating at well beyond their years. Since we will pay them for grades starting in 6th grade, we expect to be shelling out more than a few bucks. They get money for A's only, tho, nothing for B's, and they pay us for C's. The oldest starts getting money this year, we expect to be broke by the time they get thru High School...
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Our little granddaughter in AZ is one that adults can converse with. We saw early on that she can talk the ears off an elephant, and can be quite funny as well. She was diagnosed with an inoperable, but very slow growing, brain tumor just before turning 7, and we had people sending cards, calling, etc. that we didn't even know she knew. Staff at her school (other than her teacher) called to check on her. She has spoken at many fund raising events, such as one for Phoenix Childrens Hospital, sharing the dias with the mayor when a new wing was being announced.
Kids can be amazing....
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Truth rings hollow in empty heads.