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  • Under 80

    4 5.71%
  • 80 - 90

    1 1.43%
  • 90 - 100

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  • 100 - 110

    1 1.43%
  • 110 - 120

    4 5.71%
  • 120 - 130

    10 14.29%
  • 130 - 140

    16 22.86%
  • 140 - 150

    18 25.71%
  • 150 - 160

    5 7.14%
  • Over 160

    11 15.71%
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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    Well, <85 is functionally retarded. For all intents and purposes.
    The AAMR only changed it to <70 for political reasons that were good, well-intentioned reasons in 1973 but that it's better not to discuss now; they no longer really apply to the present-day situation.
    A person with an IQ <80 would be... difficult to communicate with in this context, to say the least.
    Yes, we've had a few; perhaps 3 or 4 during my tenure on this forum.
    But in all honesty... heh. Well, you don't see a lot of "mentally retarded forums" on the internet, do you? There are some forums for parents of mentally retarded children, but the mentally retarded themselves- even the high-functioning, educable mentally retarded- don't tend to express themselves real well when it comes to the written word. Nor do they tend to understand written political commentary very well. Nor do they tend to understand the subtleties of social interactions on an internet forum.

    But as few people as there are in the world with an IQ <80... that's about how few people there are with an IQ over 120. Yes, privileged white people are more likely to be on the higher end of the scale, while underprivileged minorities are more likely to be on the lower end of it. That's because the test is classist and racist, like much else in our society.
    Collectively, this forum is certainly more than clever enough to keep me entertained, but nothing about it screams "Genius".
    At least not to me.
    I never would've guessed, in all these years, that I was participating in a forum populated almost exclusively by the finest minds in the country, if not the entire world.

    I still don't believe it.
    And the defensiveness I'm sensing makes me lean away from "honest mistake" and towards "deliberate deception".
    Last edited by 1069; 08-21-08 at 10:03 PM.

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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    That's because the test is classist and racist, like much else in our society.
    Don't forget, it also hates America and our freedoms.

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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    An IQ test taken online doesn't mean squat. I'm not overly inclined to put much stock in the real ones administered by licensed psychiatrists either. I recall being asked questions that had nothing to do with my capabilities for learning so much as they revolved around what I had been exposed to up until that point. They did have puzzles and what not and I'm sure those legitimately do give you a clue as to who is and who isn't adept at doing puzzles.

    But I recall other crap like, "How far is it apx from one side of the country to the other?" Now as a 10 year old I knew that because I had family on both coasts and flew tons. But what if I didn't? They also had a host of vocabulary stuff if I recall and I don't see how that has much to do with intelligence. I think you can be incredibly wise and have a crap vocab, especially when you're 10.

    Anyway I was never told my IQ. My mother kept it secret. What I was told is that my brother, who we thought was retarded, had the highest IQ of all 4 of us. He was tested when he was failing out of school and my mother was fighting a special needs placement.

    When I was told he was a genius I thought, "No freaking way!" Now, as an adult I completely see it. My brother is brilliant.

    I don't think anyone should get overly caught up on a test. I have taken the online ones but I know it's possible to get better and better at them. So I don't think it's a valid measurement at all. You have to sit with a dr. who times you and makes you nervous. And even then, in that circumstance, I wouldn't call it meaningless but I wouldn't let the results define me.
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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Well, <85 is functionally retarded. For all intents and purposes.
    The AAMR only changed it to <70 for political reasons that were good, well-intentioned reasons in 1973 but that it's better not to discuss now; they no longer really apply to the present-day situation.
    A person with an IQ <80 would be... difficult to communicate with in this context, to say the least.
    Yes, we've had a few; perhaps 3 or 4 during my tenure on this forum.
    But in all honesty... heh. Well, you don't see a lot of "mentally retarded forums" on the internet, do you? There are some forums for parents of mentally retarded children, but the mentally retarded themselves- even the high-functioning, educable mentally retarded- don't tend to express themselves real well when it comes to the written word. Nor do they tend to understand written political commentary very well. Nor do they tend to understand the subtleties of social interactions on an internet forum.

    But as few people as there are in the world with an IQ <80... that's about how few people there are with an IQ over 120. Yes, privileged white people are more likely to be on the higher end of the scale, while underprivileged minorities are more likely to be on the lower end of it. That's because the test is classist and racist, like much else in our society.
    Collectively, this forum is certainly more than clever enough to keep me entertained, but nothing about it screams "Genius".
    At least not to me.
    I never would've guessed, in all these years, that I was participating in a forum populated almost exclusively by the finest minds in the country, if not the entire world.

    I still don't believe it.

    And the defensiveness I'm sensing makes me lean away from "honest mistake" and towards "deliberate deception".
    The only people overly concerned with being a genius are people like scucca, whom you seem to revere, and yourself... you play the turn around liberal card in classic fashion though. Whining about others being defensive in trying to justify their IQ's in hopes of actually putting them on the defensive, while you continually try to undermine the test conditions and the test itself, so that you can feel some sense of worth.


    Racist test... sure. It has to do with spatial and linear aspects, something that people of color can grasp easily enough.
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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    All I know is that IQ doesn't mean ****.
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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The only people overly concerned with being a genius are people like scucca, whom you seem to revere, and yourself... you play the turn around liberal card in classic fashion though. Whining about others being defensive in trying to justify their IQ's in hopes of actually putting them on the defensive, while you continually try to undermine the test conditions and the test itself, so that you can feel some sense of worth.


    Racist test... sure. It has to do with spatial and linear aspects, something that people of color can grasp easily enough.
    The fact that more than half of all black people tested in the US before 1973 scored under 85, causing the AAMR to actually lower the threshold of mental retardation to <70 so that opponents of the civil rights movement could not use this to withhold equal rights from blacks, and that today black people score significantly higher than they did thirty years ago (although their median score is still not on par with that of whites), and that research by reputable, nationally renowned authorities in the field have proven that there is no physiological, biological, or genetic difference in intelligence between the races... the difference in test scores is caused by cultural and environmental factors.
    In fact, the overall average Black-White IQ gap has been reduced by one third over the last 30 years (although the median IQ difference between black and white adults is still 17 points).
    The test is racist. The end.
    It's also classist and anglocentric/ nationalistic/ xenophobic, as the poor of all races and also first-generation immigrants of nearly all ethnicities score significantly lower than middle-class whites.

    If the test wasn't racist, the IQ/ race gap wouldn't have begun closing since the end of Jim Crow/ the beginning of civil rights.
    It's not like black people were troglodytes who just suddenly and miraculously began to evolve 30 years ago, and that this miracle just happened to coincide with our decision to make racial discrimination, segregation, and general abuse illegal.
    It's only been one and a half (or possibly two) generations since the civil rights movement. Black people haven't had time to change. The reason they suddenly score so much higher on IQ tests is that society has changed, and the reason they still don't score on par with whites is that society still hasn't changed enough.
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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    The fact that more than half of all black people tested in the US before 1973 scored under 85, causing the AAMR to actually lower the threshold of mental retardation to <70 so that opponents of the civil rights movement could not use this to withhold equal rights from blacks, and that today black people score significantly higher than they did thirty years ago (although their median score is still not on par with that of whites), and that research by reputable, nationally renowned authorities in the field have proven that there is no physiological, biological, or genetic difference in intelligence between the races...
    OK

    the difference in test scores is caused by cultural and environmental factors.
    Completely contradicting your Racist hypothesis.

    In fact, the overall average Black-White IQ gap has been reduced by one third over the last 30 years (although the median IQ difference between black and white adults is still 17 points).
    Further disproving your racist theory...

    The test is racist. The end.
    Think again.

    It's also classist and anglocentric/ nationalistic/ xenophobic, as the poor of all races and also first-generation immigrants of nearly all ethnicities score significantly lower than middle-class whites.

    If the test wasn't racist, the IQ/ race gap wouldn't have begun closing since the end of Jim Crow/ the beginning of civil rights.
    What the hell?

    According to you, they were. 30 years ago saw the graduation of some of the first black students to attend white schools, recieving the same education, negating any social and racial bias of the test. Kids graduate, scores go up. More kids graduate, more scores go up. See?


    It's not like black people were troglodytes who just suddenly and miraculously began to evolve 30 years ago, and that this miracle just happened to coincide with our decision to make racial discrimination, segregation, and general abuse illegal.
    It is about the level of education and social status that they were recieving and nothing more. Why does eveything have to be an agenda of oppression and hate with you?


    It's only been one and a half (or possibly two) generations since the civil rights movement. Black people haven't had time to change. The reason they suddenly score so much higher on IQ tests is that society has changed, and the reason they still don't score on par with whites is that society still hasn't changed enough.
    Black people havn't had time to change? WTF? Are you saying that they are racially inferior? That is like saying the white settlers to N. Am. didn't have time to change lifestyles and learn new methods of agricaulture in one year or face death, but they did, so they must be superior?

    Wrap that duress induced IQ of yours around some perspective and you will begin to see **** in a whole new way.
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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    Kids graduate, scores go up. More kids graduate, more scores go up. See?
    No, I don't see.
    IQ tests are supposed to measure intellectual capacity.
    They have nothing to do with education.
    If they did, they wouldn't be administered to small children, who have none to speak of.

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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    No, I don't see.
    IQ tests are supposed to measure intellectual capacity.
    They have nothing to do with education.
    If they did, they wouldn't be administered to small children, who have none to speak of.
    Care to tackle the disparity in scores on other tests such as the SAT?
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    Re: What is Your IQ?

    Originally Posted by 1069
    No, I don't see.
    IQ tests are supposed to measure intellectual capacity.
    They have nothing to do with education.
    If they did, they wouldn't be administered to small children, who have none to speak of.
    I see education of some as a permeation of awareness among the intertwined many, especially when the many are seeking it. IQ is not completely innate. It takes innate capabilities to be able to understand concepts, but many ways of understanding can also be taught. Reading to your children increases thinking and cognitive skills.. etc.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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