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Old 07-24-08, 07:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Illegal Immigrant Guns Down Family Over Traffic

Another Democrat policy, more senseless horror on law-abiding Americans.

"The scene repeats itself daily on city streets: a driver gets stuck bumper to bumper, blocking an intersection and preventing another car from turning left.

But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them.

The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law."

The case has put San Francisco's liberal politics to the test, setting off a debate over its sanctuary law that shields undocumented immigrants from deportation.


Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law - EarthLink - U.S. News

So for the umpteenth time, is it really this monumentally impossible task to deport illegal immigrants when they commit their first felony (let alone their 3rd, 7th, or 12th), or is it more cost effective to keep allowing these people to violate law-abiding Americans in every conceivable manner?
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Old 07-24-08, 07:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Guns Down Family Over Traffic

Sue the city for 15 million, at least..
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Old 07-24-08, 08:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Guns Down Family Over Traffic

There's only one reasonable method to reduce illegal immigration problems: the reduction in international wage differentials via the delivery of "fair" trade.

Unfortunately many of those on a whinge over immigration also follow economic nationalism and support unfair trade. Hypocrisy in overdrive I'm afraid
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Old 07-24-08, 10:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sue the city for 15 million, at least..
I'm not one for awarding ridiculous, unnecessary damages in lawsuits, but if a woman in a car accident is allowed to sue the person driving, the construction company working on the highway at the time, and Mazda for not posting seat belt instructions well enough, then a city getting its citizens gunned down by deliberately resisting federal immigration policy certainly seems fit to pay big.

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Guns Down Family Over Traffic

If I were a democrat, I'd argue not the immigration part, but why anyone should have access to an AK-47? But I'm not a democrat. So I won't argue that point.
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Another Democrat policy, more senseless horror on law-abiding Americans.

"The scene repeats itself daily on city streets: a driver gets stuck bumper to bumper, blocking an intersection and preventing another car from turning left.

But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them.

The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law."

The case has put San Francisco's liberal politics to the test, setting off a debate over its sanctuary law that shields undocumented immigrants from deportation.


Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law - EarthLink - U.S. News

So for the umpteenth time, is it really this monumentally impossible task to deport illegal immigrants when they commit their first felony (let alone their 3rd, 7th, or 12th), or is it more cost effective to keep allowing these people to violate law-abiding Americans in every conceivable manner?
I voted to militarize the border and deport illegals. However, it is not only illegals who commit crimes. 3 people were murdered here in Houston yesterday, and none of them was an illegal. A while back, in Jacinto City, on the outskirts of Houston, I saw an accident. Someone ran a red light and t-boned the other car. Nobody was hurt, but there was an ensuing gun battle between both drivers. I saw the whole thing. Neither driver was Hispanic, let alone illegal. They were both white Coca-Cola cowboys.

There is no need to sensationalize in order to make a point. Just demanding that those who break the law by sneaking here be deported is plenty sufficient.
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There's only one reasonable method to reduce illegal immigration problems: the reduction in international wage differentials via the delivery of "fair" trade.

Ahh the lets make the US more like Mexico argument. Classic.


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right because how dare we look out for ourselves and not try to become a third world ****hole....
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Ahh the lets make the US more like Mexico argument.
Try to make sense! Fair trade will refer to the positive effects generated by Ricardo's comparative advantage. There is no zero sum game here: all nations involved in such trading relations benefit.
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If I were a democrat, I'd argue not the immigration part, but why anyone should have access to an AK-47? But I'm not a democrat. So I won't argue that point.
If he got an AK-47, he got it illegally, which would not change with an assault rifle ban. And he would just have used a hand gun if he had been unable to get the AK.
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If he got an AK-47, he got it illegally, which would not change with an assault rifle ban. And he would just have used a hand gun if he had been unable to get the AK.
Right.

I also voted "other" because I believe we may need to start levying fines against countries whose illegal immigrants are costing us money to return to their country of origin.
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