Illegal Immigrant Guns Down Family Over Traffic - Page 2

aquapub · 07-24-08, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by danarhea

I voted to militarize the border and deport illegals. However, it is not only illegals who commit crimes. 3 people were murdered here in Houston yesterday, and none of them was an illegal. A while back, in Jacinto City, on the outskirts of Houston, I saw an accident. Someone ran a red light and t-boned the other car. Nobody was hurt, but there was an ensuing gun battle between both drivers. I saw the whole thing. Neither driver was Hispanic, let alone illegal. They were both white Coca-Cola cowboys.

You've opened my eyes. This whole time I thought Americans didn't commit crimes.

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Originally Posted by danarhea

There is no need to sensationalize in order to make a point. Just demanding that those who break the law by sneaking here be deported is plenty sufficient.

From the king of hysteria, 2nd only to Bill O' Really, how amusing.

Besides, what part of the intro sensationalized this, the part where I posted an article reporting the incident, the part where I connected it with the general trend of Democrat policies harming this country, or the part where I asked if it the nauseatingly phony "it's too hard to drive illegals to deportation facilities" excuse made sense?

Kandahar · 07-24-08, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

Another Democrat policy, more senseless horror on law-abiding Americans.

"The scene repeats itself daily on city streets: a driver gets stuck bumper to bumper, blocking an intersection and preventing another car from turning left.

But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them.

The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law."

The case has put San Francisco's liberal politics to the test, setting off a debate over its sanctuary law that shields undocumented immigrants from deportation.

Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law - EarthLink - U.S. News

So for the umpteenth time, is it really this monumentally impossible task to deport illegal immigrants when they commit their first felony (let alone their 3rd, 7th, or 12th), or is it more cost effective to keep allowing these people to violate law-abiding Americans in every conceivable manner?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! The brown man is coming to kill your sons and rape your daughters!

Ethereal · 07-24-08, 04:40 PM

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! The brown man is coming to kill your sons and rape your daughters!

So, you feel incidents such as these are unavoidable and anyone who tries to advocate or enact preventative measures against it is simply being alarmist and xenophobic?

Kandahar · 07-24-08, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethereal

So, you feel incidents such as these are unavoidable and anyone who tries to advocate or enact preventative measures against it is simply being alarmist and xenophobic?

Yes. You don't prevent robberies by removing jaywalkers from society. That's just stupid.

rsixing · 07-24-08, 05:14 PM

Because this individual is illegal does that somehow make this crime more heinous?

aquapub · 07-24-08, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kandahar

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! The brown man is coming to kill your sons and rape your daughters!

Objecting to the preventable mass murder of law-abiding American citizens must be about the gunner being brown?

Ignorant race hysteria.

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Originally Posted by Kandahar

Yes. You don't prevent robberies by removing jaywalkers from society. That's just stupid.

Equating this argument:

"We should enforce our border laws. This mass murder shouldn't have even been able to happen."

...with this argument:

"We should prevent robberies by removing jaywalkers"

...THAT'S what's stupid.

The argument is that these multiple felon-illegal immigrants shouldn't have even been in the country in the first place, yet Democrat stupidity leaves no criminal unforgiven, no error un-compounded, and no law-abiding American fairly treated.

Scucca · 07-24-08, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

Objecting to the preventable mass murder of law-abiding American citizens must be about the gunner being brown?

You have three problems. First, you cannot show that illegal immigration has increased victim crime rates. Second, you cannot dismiss that more liberal immigration policies would have reduced criminal activity. Third, you're whining about the wrong issue. US immigration problems are inflamed by economic nationalism that hinders fair trade (in simple terms you ensure an unnaturally high international wage differential that would have been partially eliminated by trade)

aquapub · 07-24-08, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rsixing

Because this individual is illegal does that somehow make this crime more heinous?

Yes, it does.

Illegal immigrants break our laws to cut in front of law-abiding immigrants. While they're here, they bankrupt our schools, crowd our prisons, and burden our welfare programs...all because we won't lift a finger to enforce the rule of law. It's absurd. They don't belong here. Every crime they commit while we continue to do nothing is that much more heinous.

jamesrage · 07-24-08, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kandahar

Yes. You don't prevent robberies by removing jaywalkers from society. That's just stupid.

So you are trying to say that if that if the government did it's job by actually securing the border,cracking down on those who hire illegals and deported illegals that family would have still been gunned down?

jamesrage · 07-24-08, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

Another Democrat policy, more senseless horror on law-abiding Americans.

"The scene repeats itself daily on city streets: a driver gets stuck bumper to bumper, blocking an intersection and preventing another car from turning left.

But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them.

The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law."

The case has put San Francisco's liberal politics to the test, setting off a debate over its sanctuary law that shields undocumented immigrants from deportation.

Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law - EarthLink - U.S. News

So for the umpteenth time, is it really this monumentally impossible task to deport illegal immigrants when they commit their first felony (let alone their 3rd, 7th, or 12th), or is it more cost effective to keep allowing these people to violate law-abiding Americans in every conceivable manner?

Our borders should be militarized and the police should take illegals straight to the deportation facilities.I also voted "other", illegals that are deported should have the fingerprints,photo and DNA sample taken and stored on a database in order to permanently deny that individual entrance into this country. We should also cut off immigration from countries we have the most illegal immigration problems with.

I think think the victims should sue the **** out of Sanfransicko.