jallman

Nice.

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aquapub

I don't know why you struggle so much to comprehend the written word, but I have repeatedly spelled out the examples of the outright fabrication of scandals-Delay, Gonzales, Libby, Hastert, etc. Try grasping it before you engage in your next round of bizarrely stupid smears.

The difference is Democrats witheld evidence on a pedophile for nearly a year (apparently demonstrating what they meant by "protecting the children') to falsely accuse the Republican leadership (right before an election) of having known about it, in conjunction with the numerous other partisan scandals they had invented out of thin air (a.k.a., 'the Republican culture of corruption') to compensate for their inability to compete on the issues and to undo their historic losing streak.

Try again.

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Zyphlin

I'm afraid to see what happens when they both just say "screw it" and throw'em on the table to measure.

At least it won't take as long to scroll past it

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aquapub

That wasn't about scoring partisan points by showing all the alleged dirt on the other side...well, it was for him...his strategy here is to undermine the demonstrable claim that Democrats have to invent partisan scandals and pretend to be conservatives to get elected, by posting such an overwhelming litany of corruption allegations against Republicans that it looks like the calculated manufacturing of this "Republican culture of corruption" was actually an inevitable, independently occurring event based on genuinely rampant Republican corruption.

This obligated me to show that there were just as many cases (more, in fact) against Democrats, hence, the "Culture of Corruption" BS was something other than inevitable, independent, or genuine. More like exactly the desperate campaign strategy I said it was, for the party of high taxes, expensive gas, and no ideas.

Bodhisattva

Well, I guess we can get ready for this thread to get flushed soon, aqua is here.

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rsixing

Who's Carl Rove and what's this FOX News?

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SouthernDemocrat

The difference is that he posted a list of Republican Scandals at the national level over the course of just a couple of years, and in response, you had to dig up a list of Democratic Scandals over the course of at least 30 years and affecting all levels of government just to come up with a decent sized list.

So basically, one can only conclude that it takes Democrats at least 25 to 30 years at all levels of government to to accumulate the number of scandals Republicans accumulate in 2 to 3 years at the national level only.

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Tucker Case

George Stephanopoulos is on ABC. That is exactly the same thing as Rove being on Fox.

I don't think it really matters what bias the so-called "news" channels have when all they are doing is selling products for they're respective advertisers. Thus they each have a target demographic, geared to get specific types of advertising.

Fox targets a specific population. Nothing more, nothing less. ABC, NBC and CNN do the same.

In any case, none of them actually report "news", IMO. They sensationalize garbage.

SouthernDemocrat

With the exception that George Stephanopoulos was not constantly embroiled in scandal, not continually suspected of breaking the law, not a pathological liar, and in general not the douchebag that Karl Rove has devoted his entire life to being.

Other than that, I suppose your right.

Tucker Case

Hey, you're preaching to the choir about Rove's character. I think he is despicable myself, but that's just my opinion, and quite frankly FOX couldn't care less about my opinions on the matter.

Here's the truth of the matter, Rove will DEFINTELY get viewers to watch. HE adds no real value to the world, but he does get viewers to watch.

These stations are in it to make a profit, nothing else. And like all corporations, they hold no morality whatsoever. They are not immoral they are simply amoral.

They have one purpose and one purpose only: to turn a profit. And FOX News is doing this in the most brilliant way that any "news" channel can. They pander to an audience that has gone underrepresented (or at least perceives itself as such) within the other segments of the MSM. Basically, while FOX technically has many competitors, they have no competition for their target demographic.

This is a brilliant business strategy. It does not mean they are "fair and balanced", that whole slogan is a huge joke. But it DOES mean that they can win the polls for "most trusted network" and some other such nonsense because they are the only conservative network, so most of the conservatives obviously pick them as most trusted, whereas all the liberals and independents will be necessarily spread throughout all of the networks (although unevenly distributed) in such a way that the only network that could possibly come out on top for being most trusted is fox. Conversely, you would also expect the reverse to be true, and that FOX receives the LEAST trusted award. (Since the vast majority of non-conservatives would have only one station to vote for, but conservatives would be spread throughout the rest of the MSM).



So basically, I can't fault FOX for having a spectacular business model. And part of that business model is giving their primary viewers (who obviously yearn for their blatant conservative bias) what they want. And what they want is people like Rove debating with semi-literate liberals so that it ALWAYS seems as though the conservative wins the debate.

Personally, I wish I'd have thought of it.