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Old 07-22-08, 03:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Are we talking about Rove here? Then yes. Yes, it does.
How? How does the left's partisan scandalmongering and politics of personal destruction have anything to do with whether or not it is biased to put a former Chief of Staff of a president in a position to break down legitimate news?
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Old 07-22-08, 03:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Is Karl Rove retiring to Fox News and being introduced as "Fox News Analyst" inappropriate/a sign of Fox's bias?
No, FOX also has contributors who are former Clinton advisors, democratic strategists, and a PhD in African American studies. It's just a contributor with a perspective.
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Old 07-22-08, 03:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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No, FOX also has contributors who are former Clinton advisors, democratic strategists, and a PhD in African American studies. It's just a contributor with a perspective.
It does bother me when partisan operatives are asked for perspective without being identified as such, but as long as there are partisan operatives from both sides included in equal or close to equal numbers, none or all consistently being labeled properly, I can live with it...

But this is not what usually happens. I've seen countless occasions on the networks and CNN where partisan Democrats are treated, and in some case even labeled as experts by the partisan Democrat operative "moderating" the show, while the one token Republican is labeled as a Republican.

I've never seen Fox pull that kind of crap and they have a far more balanced array of liberals and conservatives, whereas partisan Democrat operatives overwhelmingly dominate most the other networks...

A list of some of the household name journalists who used to work as partisan Democrat operatives:

NBC Tim Russert-Governor Mario Cuomo (D), Senator Pat Moynihan (D).

CNN Jeff Greenfield-Senator Bobby Kennedy (D), Mayor John Lindsay (D).

MSNBC Chris Matthews-President Jimmy Carter (D), House Speaker Tip O'Neil (D).

NBC Ken Bode-Presidential candidate Morris Udall (D).

PBS Bill Moyers-President L.B. Johnson (D).

NBC Brian Williams-President Jimmy Carter (D).

ABC Rick Underforth-President Carter (D), President Clinton (D), and a handful of Senators, all (D).

PBS Elizabeth Brackett-Mayoral candidate Bill Singer (D), Brackett was also HERSELF a candidate (D).

NBC Jane Pauley worked on the state Democratic Committee of Indiana (D).

ABC Pierre Salinger-President Kennedy (D), he also WAS a senator from California (D).

CBS Lesley Stahl-Mayor John Lindsay (D)

New Yorker Ken Auletta-Mayor John Lindsay (D)

New York Times David Shipley-President Bill Clinton (D).

New York Times Leslie Gelb-Presidents Johnson (D) and Clinton (D).

New York Times Magazine, Atlantic Monthly, New Yorker, American Prospect James Fallows-President Jimmy Carter (D).

CNN, Los Angeles Times Tom Johnson-President Johnson (D).

Washington Post, CBS, NBC, Walter Pincus-Senator J.W. Fulbright (D), Pincus’s wife was also a Clinton appointee.

New York Times Jack Rosenthal-Presidents Kennedy (D) and Johnson (D).

USA Today John Seigenthaler-President Kennedy (D).

New Yorker Sidney Blumenthal-President Clinton (D).

U.S. News and World Report Donald Baer-President Clinton (D).

Nightline, New York Times Carolyn Curiel-President Clinton (D).

NBC Thomas Ross-President Clinton (D).

Nightline Tara Sonenshine-President Clinton (D).

TIME Strobe Talbott-President Clinton (D).

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Rove gives an insight into campaigns and polling that few have. Biased or not, it's informative as hell and definitely viewer worthy, regardless of one's political leaning. That's enough for any media outlet. You know what you're getting with Rove - a Republican's take on the situation, and that is better than another commentator pretending neutrality while trying to spoon feed us a liberal agenda.
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How? How does the left's partisan scandalmongering and politics of personal destruction have anything to do with whether or not it is biased to put a former Chief of Staff of a president in a position to break down legitimate news?
I think you're answering your own question. I think Rove's recent actions are of interest to him being a credible pundit. But, at the same time, that doesn't mean I don't think he'd be an interesting one. I would have watched a show with him and George Stephanopoulus breaking down the elections as they happen this year. Two successful advisors who got their candidate into office would have been really revealing.
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Who are they?

I saw a former Clinton advisor on Hannity last week and he was anything but left.
Paul Begala and James Carville off the top of my head.
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Rove's recent actions are of interest to him being a credible pundit.
Being the target of a partisan witchhunt in no way discredits him.
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No, FOX also has contributors who are former Clinton advisors, democratic strategists, and a PhD in African American studies. It's just a contributor with a perspective.

That doesn't make 'em credible. Not even close. At best, pundits who might not be familiar with both sides and have a skewed view of reality. TV news is full of 'em.
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Being the target of a partisan witchhunt in no way discredits him.
That is, if it's a partisan witch hunt. You might be too partisan to see the other side.
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That is, if it's a partisan witch hunt. You might be too partisan to see the other side.
One need not be partisan to see what a steaming load the case is against Rove, as with most of the left's partisan targets. Thinking for yourself and taking a substantive look at the evidence is all it requires.

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