More Experts Dismiss Global Warming

aquapub · 07-21-08, 03:24 PM

Since the only "science" liberals accept is farcical "consenses," here is further proof that there is no consensus at all:

"The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming..."

DailyTech - Myth of Consensus Explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate

Also...

"Only 45% of Climate Scientists Accept 'Global Warming Consensus''

The Influence Peddler: Only 45% of Climate Scientists Accept 'Global Warming Consensus'

So the question is, is there a consensus on global warming or not?

shuamort · 07-21-08, 03:42 PM

FWIW:

Rumor Debunked: No Flip-Flop on Global Warming

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Claims are floating around the blogosphere that the American Physical Society, the leading professional organization for physicists, has reversed its position on global warming.

But on its Web site, the APS has reaffirmed that it supports the consensus view that human-caused greenhouse gas emissions are warming the planet.

A note in red lettering above the article states that it has not been peer-reviewed and that "its conclusions are in disagreement with the overwhelming opinion of the world scientific community. The Council of the American Physical Society disagrees with this article's conclusions."

On their homepage, the APS has now placed a statement that reaffirms its 2007 position statement on global warming, which also states, "The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring." It adds that mitigation efforts must be taken immediately.

Kandahar · 07-21-08, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

Since the only "science" liberals accept is farcical "consenses," here is further proof that there is no consensus at all:

"The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming..."

DailyTech - Myth of Consensus Explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate

Also...

"Only 45% of Climate Scientists Accept 'Global Warming Consensus''

The Influence Peddler: Only 45% of Climate Scientists Accept 'Global Warming Consensus'

So the question is, is there a consensus on global warming or not?

I would say that there is much less of a consensus on the matter now, than there was even 1 or 2 years ago.

Gibberish · 07-21-08, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

So the question is, is there a consensus on global warming or not?

According to the American Physical Society, Yes there is.

According to the articles you linked to that falsely state the American Physical Society changed their stance, No there isn't.

Which one do you believe Aquapub?

jfuh · 07-21-08, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibberish

According to the American Physical Society, Yes there is.

According to the articles you linked to that falsely state the American Physical Society changed their stance, No there isn't.

Which one do you believe Aquapub?

Apub wouldn't believe anything unless conservative news pundents used it to extend the bush presidency an additional term with some hardcore liberal bashing mixed in.

Something like this might work.
Read aloud in an O'Reilly style shouting tone.

GOD DAMN ****ING LIBERALS!!! RUINING THE WORLD WITH THEIR CONSTANT BICKERING AND PROTESTING WASTING MILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF FOSSIL FUEL THAT IT'S CAUSING MASSIVE GLOBAL WARMING. AL GORE ACTUALLY THINKS AGW IS A FARCE!!!
ACCORDING TO THE WEEKLY STANDARD THERE IS AGW!!!

ronpaulvoter · 07-21-08, 04:49 PM

Global warming is essentially a natural phenominon. Sure, we all contribute a tad by breathing and burning fossil fuels, but it is miniscule.

Instead of all of the hype and grossly excessive regulations of the burning of "carbon," and thereby hamstringing productive nations, we should focus first on stopping population explosions in third world countries.

jfuh · 07-21-08, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter

Global warming is essentially a natural phenominon. Sure, we all contribute a tad by breathing and burning fossil fuels, but it is miniscule.

Breathing?

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Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter

Instead of all of the hype and grossly excessive regulations of the burning of "carbon," and thereby hamstringing productive nations, we should focus first on stopping population explosions in third world countries.

While I agree that population explosions are of concern but those are as much important as unrestricted growth in first world industrialized nations. In particular as the populous of which is of major contribution to pollution and global economy.

Bodhisattva · 07-21-08, 05:56 PM

Aqua will just bail on this issue like he does on every other one that he starts losing... why bother with him at all?

Scucca · 07-21-08, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

So the question is, is there a consensus on global warming or not?

You've gone for the wrong angle. It is actually the hope for a consensus that is the problem. Science is ridden with publication bias that bogusly encourages the notion of consensus. This is an unfortunately repercussion of the peer refereeing process for journal publications. You need to try and find articles that were rejected from core journals for no valid reason, or find empirical evidence of bias (e.g. Michaels, 2008, Evidence for "publication Bias" Concerning Global Warming in Science and Nature, Energy & Environment, Vol 19, pp 287-301)

aquapub · 07-21-08, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shuamort

FWIW:

Rumor Debunked: No Flip-Flop on Global Warming

I went to their site and confirmed that they do in fact have a statement on there clarifying that the dissenting view was posted in an APS newsletter somehow not connected to the organization's views, and that they stood by the original claim that man-made emissions were causing changes to the climate.

So yes, one of the many articles citing what a myth the consensus is turned out to be a misunderstanding.

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Originally Posted by Gibberish

According to the articles you linked to that falsely state the American Physical Society changed their stance, No there isn't.

Wrong. ONE of the links involved the APS and its newsletter that contradicted APS's position on the matter, leading to all the confusion. The other was one of many articles one finds debunking the consensus myth if they look hard enough.

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Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

Aqua will just bail on this issue like he does on every other one that he starts losing... why bother with him at all?

Debating with has yet to provide me with the experience of losing. Walking away from your intellectually devoid smearfests (case in point) therefore cannot logically be the product of losing. You don't win debates, you emotionally PMS on people for disagreeing with you, as you've just demonstrated.