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Current Mood: | Left Coming to Terms with Their Own Bigotry Like so many household name journalists, Chris Matthews is a former partisan Democrat operative (worked for Jimmy Carter). On Tuesday (May 13), Matthews made it clear that he thinks Clinton won by a landslide in West Virginia due to racism. According to Matthews: "You could have predicted West Virginia 20 years ago on this one...These people made up their mind in '57."
So the question is, if liberals are starting to grasp that it is they themselves (the ones who say horribly racist things about Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas; the ones with a former Klansman still in office; the ones who perpetually race-bait the black community into a state of paranoid bigotry for personal gain) who are obssessed with race and who work against actual equality more than anyone, from both sides even, will this lead to a new era of conservatives not being smeared as bigots every time they resist the left's racist preferential treatments for blacks? Or does the left just not actually care about racism?
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Current Mood: | Re: Left Coming to Terms with Their Own Bigotry Matthews is an idiot, media mouthpiece, and Obama line-tower. Clinton won because of a demographic, not a race issue. However, Obama is the media darling and you won't see much pro-Clinton discussion on the major players. It's pretty bad when Fox News has to say something positive for Hillary.
He's not a conformist or race apologist. He just knows who's signing his paycheck.
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Originally Posted by Gipper Matthews is an idiot, media mouthpiece, and Obama line-tower. Clinton won because of a demographic, not a race issue. However, Obama is the media darling and you won't see much pro-Clinton discussion on the major players. It's pretty bad when Fox News has to say something positive for Hillary.
He's not a conformist or race apologist. He just knows who's signing his paycheck. | I've read his book and used to watch Hardball before he fell off the wagon into conspiracy theories and ridiculous hysteria (i.e., before he became a full-fledged liberal). He used to be tolerable because his commentary was so Machiavellian. But he has lost all objectivity and seriously marginalized himself with crap like this.
The only thing more astonishing about him to me than how openly biased he is now, with no accountibility, is that he has managed on multiple occasions to inadvertantly acknowledge large-scale left-wing racism, yet he is always the first to jump in and play the race card against the right, and never gets called on it. |
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Current Mood: | Re: Left Coming to Terms with Their Own Bigotry How do those "leftists" in West Virginia typically vote in presidential elections now?
I believe its typically for Republicans, is it not.
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Current Mood: | Re: Left Coming to Terms with Their Own Bigotry Quote:
Originally Posted by Gipper Matthews is an idiot, media mouthpiece, and Obama line-tower. Clinton won because of a demographic, not a race issue. However, Obama is the media darling and you won't see much pro-Clinton discussion on the major players. It's pretty bad when Fox News has to say something positive for Hillary.
He's not a conformist or race apologist. He just knows who's signing his paycheck. | Well, the exit polling there would disagree with you: Quote: The Race Factor
Racially motivated voting ran somewhat higher than elsewhere: Two in 10 whites said the race of the candidate was a factor in their vote, second only to Mississippi.
| ABC News: W.Va Voting: Race a Factor in November |
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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat How do those "leftists" in West Virginia typically vote in presidential elections now?
I believe its typically for Republicans, is it not. | This is a Democrat primary. No Republicans involved. And you need to figure out which contradictory argument of yours you want to abandon, your claim about Democrats representing the will of the people despite having to pretend to be conservative (Clinton), to have an historic Republican scandal (Carter) to get into the Oval Office, or this one, claiming that the will of the people is reflected only by the most recent presidential elections.
Two narrow victories for Republicans in a time of national crisis and West Virginia is a Republican state, huh? "From the time of the Great Depression through the 1990s, the politics of West Virginia were largely dominated by the Democratic party. In the 2000 presidential election, George W. Bush won a surprise victory over Al Gore, with 52% of the vote, and he won West Virginia again in 2004 with 56% of the vote...Democrats hold both U.S. Senate seats and two of three seats in the United States House of Representatives, and still dominate the state legislature and most local and state offices. West Virginia also has a very strong tradition of union membership. Interestingly, the Democratic candidate for Governor in 2004, Joe Manchin, won 63% of the vote." Politics of West Virginia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat | So these Democrats are motivated by racism. Thanks for confirming. 
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Current Mood: | Re: Left Coming to Terms with Their Own Bigotry So.....the outcome of WV couldn't have predicted 20 years ago? I wouldn't know West Virginia exists if it wasn't because of the elections. I don't think they didn't vote for Obama because they're racist. Maybe they didn't like him? Obama has beaten Hillary like a drum in white states(95% of the state being white). No skin off my back if a few thousand white people don't like him. I just think of Alan Keyes and how the Republicans decided McCain was a better conservative. 
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Current Mood: | Re: Left Coming to Terms with Their Own Bigotry Matthews worked for Tip O'Neill. I don't think he worked for Carter.
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Lean: Independent Gender:  | Re: Left Coming to Terms with Their Own Bigotry I do not think Obama lost WV due to "Direct Racism".
If you look closely at the full data from the exit polls, a very large number of people believe the anti Obama propaganda.
A much higher number than in other State's polls.
In small rural church groups there are multiple false rumors about Obama that are running wild.
Because WV has a large amount of rural area, it is difficult to punch into these pockets of people without using the same small town networks.
Additionally, McCain, Clinton, and state / local officials have all been taking advantage of a few key misunderstandings of Obama's words taken out of context.
Its not hard to see how they derived at their decision when they hear the rumors from people in their own community that they know and trust, and then they see the out of context words on the media once they look for any confirmation outside of their community friends.
I think the situation is easily explainable without "Racism".
But Racism still does exist in pockets everywhere, and I am sure that more than 1 vote was cast out of Racism.
For the large scale though, no.
Edit: Btw i found out from my GF's mother recently, that Obama is really a secret agent for Hamas.
She just wanted to make sure we knew.
And it has to be true because she heard it from her church group.
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Originally Posted by Hatuey So.....the outcome of WV couldn't have predicted 20 years ago? I wouldn't know West Virginia exists if it wasn't because of the elections. I don't think they didn't vote for Obama because they're racist. Maybe they didn't like him? Obama has beaten Hillary like a drum in white states(95% of the state being white). No skin off my back if a few thousand white people don't like him. I just think of Alan Keyes and how the Republicans decided McCain was a better conservative.  | But Southern Democrat just posted proof that 20% of Democrat voters admitted to race playing a part. More than 8 in 10 who said it factored in their votes backed Mrs. Clinton, according to exit polls. He sure is useful, isn't he? Quote:
Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 Matthews worked for Tip O'Neill. I don't think he worked for Carter. | "He was a presidential speechwriter for four years during the Carter administration, where he drafted much of Carter's so-called "Malaise" speech." Chris Matthews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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