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Old 03-09-08, 11:44 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Hillary is grasping for straws coming up with **** about a dream ticket........Obama is kicking her ***.......That is why.............
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Old 03-09-08, 12:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Personally, I've never seen this as the "dream ticket" (I'm not a big Hillary fan).

In my opinion, Hillary doesn't add much to the ticket with Obama as president. If he wants experience, I think he'd go out and get someone with some actual experience - Richardson, as an example. Especially after the way she's slammed him, I don't think he wants her on the ticket.

The converse is true for that last point - after hitting him so hard, I don't think Obama is Hillary's ideal VP. At this point though - fighting for political survival - I'm sure she'd give him VP as part of a deal.

But I doubt Obama would take it, and I think he'd overshadow the top of the ticket anyway. You don't want to run in an election where 5,000 people come to hear you speak, and 10,000 come to hear your running mate speak.
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Old 03-09-08, 12:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Obviously you DON'T understand. The rest of us are having a conversation about the electoral college. You provide a link to a generic national poll.

Dont be silly. Hatuey interjected the electoral college into the debate about the upcoming presidential election.

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Yeah...it must suck that we use the electoral college where both democrats have a 70 elector lead over McCain.
And I pointed out that he was telling a lie because his own source put it at 55 lead for Democrats

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????? Soooo 55 wasnt enough for you so you throw out those who consider themselves to be only "leaners" toward Republican or Democrat. 63 still wasnt enough so you simply inflated it to 70 Thats quite a distortion that isnt much use in any honest debate.
Then I showed another prediction of the electoral college by SurveyUSA

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Looks like 22 and 14. Maybe your figures are a couple days old.
Electoral Math as of 03/06/08:
Obama 280, McCain 258
Clinton 276, McCain 262
SurveyUSA Blog Archive Electoral Math as of 03/06/08: Obama 280, McCain 258
Then I showed that if you simply ask people who they would vote for in a matchup of McCain v Clinton and McCain v Obama

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Gallup has McCain beating both.
as does Rasmussen Reports

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General Election Match-Up History

Date 03/06/08
John McCain vs. Hillary Clinton
McCain 46% Clinton 45%

John McCain vs. Barack Obama
McCain 46% Obama 44%
This Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator Isnt just considering the electoral college. Its based upon two different prediction markets, rankings of selected analysts, the state’s voting history, and national party identification trends. It simply averages Clinton and Obama poll results together since neither has yet won the primary.
Would seem that everything at this point, 7 months before the election, shows that at best it would be a photo finish with McCain winning the popular vote but one of the democrats taking the electoral college. A repeat of 2000s NARROW Bush victory. 7 months before the general election, Hatueys declaration that McCain is Toast is a little bit early. Thats why he exaggerated the results of his "Balance of Power Calculator" from 55 to 70. I suspect if he really thought McCain were toast, he wouldnt have felt the need to lie about the results.
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Old 03-10-08, 04:11 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Really.............Why do you think that?
Well, Obama, if the nominee, won't be getting a whole lot of seniors. Or rednecks. I'm not saying he'll lose, but John McCain is a great candidate for the GOP, in my opinion (politically wise, not policy).

Adding Clinton would cut off the majority of white males, and while it might galvanize some women, not enough to be able to cut into a whole lot of states the GOP has held for a while. It takes away (drastically) from Obama's potential in quite a few states.

Either way, by November, there are going to be quite a few people in certain area's who believe he wants massive slavery reperations, is a closet homosexual, smokes crack regularly, and shot a cop. It's gonna come down to how well he glavanizes certain groups, especially black (hope they show up) and young (I'll vote for him) voters. It'd be cool if the 30 and Youngers were as important as the 65 and Overs. And I think Clinton would rain on that parade a bit.

Clinton really needs someone viewed favorably by a large portion of the country. Someone with Natl Seurity experience, preferably a vet, would be her best choice I think. Obama doesn't really bring a lot other than "hope," and can a VP do that behind someone viewed as polarizing as Clinton. Edwards wasn't.

The only way I see this happening is if it really looks like the Convention would be ugly. Which is certainly a possibility.
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Dont be silly. Hatuey interjected the electoral college into the debate about the upcoming presidential election.



And I pointed out that he was telling a lie because his own source put it at 55 lead for Democrats



Then I showed another prediction of the electoral college by SurveyUSA



Then I showed that if you simply ask people who they would vote for in a matchup of McCain v Clinton and McCain v Obama



as does Rasmussen Reports



This Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator Isnt just considering the electoral college. Its based upon two different prediction markets, rankings of selected analysts, the state’s voting history, and national party identification trends. It simply averages Clinton and Obama poll results together since neither has yet won the primary.
Would seem that everything at this point, 7 months before the election, shows that at best it would be a photo finish with McCain winning the popular vote but one of the democrats taking the electoral college. A repeat of 2000s NARROW Bush victory. 7 months before the general election, Hatueys declaration that McCain is Toast is a little bit early. Thats why he exaggerated the results of his "Balance of Power Calculator" from 55 to 70. I suspect if he really thought McCain were toast, he wouldnt have felt the need to lie about the results.


Then I showed another
Then I showed that
He was telling a lie



LOL! You are stil our number one Bonobo!
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Then I showed another
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He was telling a lie



LOL! You are stil our number one Bonobo!
And you are still our # one half wit, without the intelligence to add anything of value to the debate.
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If you lefties think Obama would pick Hillary as a VP I have some waterfront property in Arizona to sell you..........Hillary is desperate, she knows she is losing.she is grasping at straws.......
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Seriously, McCain is toast going from Rage against the machine to table scraps arse kisser - what a shame.
I would vote for either but I would preferentially like to see a Clinton/Obama ticket as I see the possibility for a 16 year democratic reign of the white house - but we'll see how it goes.
Agreed, I see that possibility too
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Agreed, I see that possibility too
Obama already said that isn't happening. Why would number one accept a number 2 position from number 2?

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Agreed, I see that possibility too
What part of Obama does not want to be VP do you not understand.............A week ago Hillary said over and over again that Obama was not qualified to be president.........Now she is willing for him to be her VP and he is qualified if anything happens to her to be president.....

Hey Hillary you are losing......You are getting your fat *** kicked......Quit grasping for straws.........
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