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Do You Trust The MSM?

Do you trust the MSM?

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Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!

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ModerateGOP said:
Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!
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I do not trust the mainstream media any further then I can throw it.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!
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Is the Pope Jewish?
 
He might be ethnically Jewish but not religiously of course
 
ModerateGOP said:
Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!

I spent too much time editing the poll so it wasn't included :(
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No.

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ModerateGOP said:
Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!

I spent too much time editing the poll so it wasn't included :(
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It really depends. Sometimes it is really not a matter of trust, and more of a 'do I agree or disagree'kinda thing, especially when we're talking about opinions.

But for the most part I am wary of the MSM. But not to the extent that a lot of people seem to be.
 
As for US MSM

Domestically in general yes. The more detailed the report and less sensational the title even more so

On international issues, very little
 
ModerateGOP said:
Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!

I spent too much time editing the poll so it wasn't included :(
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Yes, generally. I think people who doubt the basic veracity of a news story on CNN or the WSJ generally have a deeper bias than the 'media' they think is out to hoodwink them.
 
Approximately as much as I trust the promises of politicians.
 
Sherman123 said:
Yes, generally. I think people who doubt the basic veracity of a news story on CNN or the WSJ generally have a deeper bias than the 'media' they think is out to hoodwink them.
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Hmm I tend to agree with you on this, actually! I wonder if all this distrust started because of the X-Files' Trust No One slogan, because I'm not so sure how prevalent this discussion would be in the 1980s before the show's start in 1993.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!
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Oh, it's not so bad once you know what to look for and what to avoid. The "if it bleeds it leads" aspect is unfortunate but that's a permanent aspect of the media that goes back to the invention of the printing press.

Things to look for:

Which news sources have obvious clickbait? Delete those news sources from your feed immediately.

Which news sources disguise advertisements as news? Delete those news sources from your feed immediately.

Does your news source feature a daily front-page story on cruelty to some random puppy? (Yes, this is oddly specific) Delete this news source from your feed immediately.

Which news sources have sidebars featuring celebrities showing sideboob? Delete those sources from your feed immediately.

Does the news source post regular retractions and corrections? If not, delete that source immediately.

Then you're left with more complex decisions. Do the articles leave you feeling as uninformed as if you had never read the articles in the first place? If you had to explain the story to a friend, would the article have given you a relatively good handle on all the aspects of it?

Also, here's a complex one: is the story simply too convenient for your political point of view? This is a hard one for we who loathe Trump because nearly everything he says and does is super convenient for the political perspective we hold. That creates that much more work for us in separating the truth from the dross.
 
Cardinal said:
Oh, it's not so bad once you know what to look for and what to avoid. The "if it bleeds it leads" aspect is unfortunate but that's a permanent aspect of the media that goes back to the invention of the printing press.

Things to look for:

Which news sources have obvious clickbait? Delete those news sources from your feed immediately.

Which news sources disguise advertisements as news? Delete those news sources from your feed immediately.

Does your news source feature a daily front-page story on cruelty to some random puppy? (Yes, this is oddly specific) Delete this news source from your feed immediately.

Which news sources have sidebars featuring celebrities showing sideboob? Delete those sources from your feed immediately.

Does the news source post regular retractions and corrections? If not, delete that source immediately.
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Yup. I think this is a really really really good guide that should be taught to 1st graders! Can this be put somewhere on Google's homepage? Sites that often update their stories after something good or bad in it happens are often great sources too.
 
I have been calling them the "Corporate Class Propaganda Machine" for years.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Yup. I think this is a really really really good guide that should be taught to 1st graders! Can this be put somewhere on Google's homepage? Sites that often update their stories after something good or bad in it happens are often great sources too.
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I'm kind of playing around with this current makeup. My news feed should be considered a "work in progress."

Unfortunately I've deleted Wall Street Journal because of the pay wall. That's kind of sad though, because if you're paying for a subscription you're almost certainly getting better quality news.

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ModerateGOP said:
Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!

I spent too much time editing the poll so it wasn't included :(
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No I do not trust the MSM and haven't for a long time. And I speak as one who trained to be part of it and was part of it for some time.

There was a time in which a news story--anything other than clearly an opinion piece identified as such on the editorial page--was expected to include who, what, where, when, why, and how in the first paragraph if possible and certainly in the first two paragraphs. Then you flesh it out with additional information, but information that in no way changes the impression given in those first two paragraphs. Any trace of bias or opinion of the reporter detected in the story would get you a good knuckle wrapping from the editor. Any deliberate omission or other effort to affect the opinion of the reader could get you fired.

Then you could trust the MSM to tell it like it is at least as far as the reporter/editor knew it to be. There were always allowances for untintentional errors or mistakes.

Any story that could cast any shadow on a person's reputation, business, or otherwise negatively impact him/her was checked, double checked, and checked again with hard core verification required before it would be published. And even then, the hard fast rule of absence of malice applied.

Since none of those values, principles, or ethics are present in much of anything the MSM does anymore, all it has become is a propaganda machine that deliberately tries to sculpt the opinion of its readers and viewers and it doesn't care how dishonest it has to be to do that.
 
Cardinal said:
I'm kind of playing around with this current makeup. My news feed should be considered a "work in progress."

Unfortunately I've deleted Wall Street Journal because of the pay wall. That's kind of sad though, because if you're paying for a subscription you're almost certainly getting better quality news.

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I pay for Time Magazine, but they don't have a paywall. They just have good features. I have a popup blocker and every time I get that little pop up message come up saying, please unblock us we make money by ads. I leave the site. Unlelss it's Forbes. Forbes is good. Except they tell blatantly Millennials to do things all the time and it gets annoying.

You just can't make much money in ad revenue these days without being clickbait. That's why I don't have ads on my blog. We've already seen a number of publications shutter and restructure due to Trump's win and how he won in the media. Lots of organizations are going to be looking at the same thing. Until such a time when news stops looking at profit and starts looking at the message they bring across I don't think it will stop. And then, what's the fine line between click-bait, passion, a mission to spread their own truths, or the actual facts of the matter?
 
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ModerateGOP said:
Since this has been discussed ad nasueum in almost every thread I had to ask. Do you generally trust the MSM? And if you have been on this site for more than three months, you should know what the MSM is and which media organizations belong to it! If you don't please seek medical attention right away, or perhaps reading glasses!

I spent too much time editing the poll so it wasn't included :(
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Consume all media, trust none.
 
Generally speaking, I don't know why people don't trust the MSM. When they report on important stories it tends to be true. I think a lot of people have a hard time filtering out bias, and they tend to get really frustrated and pout about it online. If you can filter out the sensationalist language the stories are fine.
 
Cardinal said:
I'm kind of playing around with this current makeup. My news feed should be considered a "work in progress."

Unfortunately I've deleted Wall Street Journal because of the pay wall. That's kind of sad though, because if you're paying for a subscription you're almost certainly getting better quality news.

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Till about two years ago Slate was pretty good, but they are a lefty yellow journalism place now, they make no bones about it. Vox might have been good once, I did not start looking at them till about a year ago...they are better than Slate now but they are throwing up too much content that was done way too fast, is too short, and they have an editorial policy to ignore that which does not conform to their bias which means it is not a place worth spending much time.
 
A hell of a lot more than bloggers and new media outlets.
 
Fiddytree said:
A hell of a lot more than bloggers and new media outlets.
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No, I like the implication that because USA Today sucks then I should get all my news from "Tyler Durden" over at Zero Hedge.
 
I look at it like this. CNN is considered by many (mostly on the left) as the least biased and most trusted of the MSM organizations. They have repeatedly been caught editing video to fit a narrative and even completely fabricating stories. So I think it is foolish to trust any news organization (both left and right wing).
 
More than the administration.
 
I trust the media to behave dishonestly

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