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    Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?

    I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.

    Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.

    Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.

    I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?

    I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.

    Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.

    Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.

    I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
    The Mainstream Media in the USA keeps demonizing Russia and China to characterize them as a enemy and danger to our State. Our greatest danger is our inept political class not curing the economic problems that are going to drown us in debt. From the Elite point of view, overpopulation of the Planet threatens their way of life and some population thinning would be a good thing. War certainly does that, and very profitably if you already have large means. Military and weapons are the life support industries of the USA and that means "war is good for business." The USA is the greatest threat for war because we want to control everything and not cooperate to the benefit of all. Probably because of the tenous nature of our indebtedness. I think that lots of people want war because of the business nature. Not a good thing.
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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    The only military options in the past 60+ years have been proxy wars, which are for specific objectives with limited commitment, like to steal oil, and annihilation. This period is already the longest in human history without armed conflict between regional/global powers. There's an obvious reason for that which even Putin admits. By the time it reaches the "larger conflict," like the world wars, nothing can be held back. A conventional, and now obsolete, war with millions of troops on each side *without* using all weapons available would be absurd
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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?

    I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.

    Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.

    Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.

    I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
    i hope we go to war with them chinese

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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?

    I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.

    Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.

    Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.

    I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
    Certainly. If 2016 is evidence of anything it's that the institutions we believed would protect us from any variety of disaster could topple at the drop of a hat. The solidity of the EU was toppled by an ad campaign and a single referendum vote, the NATO alliance was instantaneously weakened by a single comment by Trump, racist nationalist demagoguery became the mainstream in America in a single year, and with just one President's election the entire military linchpin of our Pacific strategy was thrown overboard with the election of the Philippine's President in June. So can the institutions that dial down the heat that could cause the next war be weakened? Absolutely. Institutions were created by people, they need to be maintained by people, and they can come completely undone by people.

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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Certainly. If 2016 is evidence of anything it's that the institutions we believed would protect us from any variety of disaster could topple at the drop of a hat. The solidity of the EU was toppled by an ad campaign and a single referendum vote, the NATO alliance was instantaneously weakened by a single comment by Trump, racist nationalist demagoguery became the mainstream in America in a single year, and with just one President's election the entire military linchpin of our Pacific strategy was thrown overboard with the election of the Philippine's President in June. So can the institutions that dial down the heat that could cause the next war be weakened? Absolutely. Institutions were created by people, they need to be maintained by people, and they can come completely undone by people.
    Very well said.
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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Yes I can see it happening but not likely...... Iran, if they do something stupid and bomb Israel or sink a US warship in the Persian Gulf.
    Russia if they invade the Baltic states or any NATO countries. The latter would be the greatest threat to world peace and start of WWIII.
    North Korea doing something stupid might trigger a war but not a world war.

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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    Yes I can see it happening but not likely...... Iran, if they do something stupid and bomb Israel or sink a US warship in the Persian Gulf.
    Russia if they invade the Baltic states or any NATO countries. The latter would be the greatest threat to world peace and start of WWIII.
    North Korea doing something stupid might trigger a war but not a world war.
    Agreed. I don't see the world willing to go to war over NK. Maybe China, which could make it big, but I'm not so sure even of that. It would have to be truly extraordinary circumstances.
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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?

    I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.

    Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.

    Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.

    I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
    Given how stupid humanity is? Of course. I can also see Trump being the catalyst for it. Things are precariously balanced between world powers, and Trump is the bull in the China shop (heheh).
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    Re: Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Can you envision another world war ever occurring?

    If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?

    I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.

    Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.

    Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.

    I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
    There's Kim Jung who is the feckin madman of North Korea.

    There's Vladimir Putin, who is the head of the Russian mafia, with access to a nuclear launch button.

    There's Donald Trump who is not stable and has the diplomatic skills of a rutting hog and access to a nuclear launch button.










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