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Should Hate Crime Hoaxers Be Exposed?

Should the Names & Pictures of Hate Crime Hoaxers be Published Online?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 75.0%
  • No

    Votes: 4 25.0%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .

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While reading this 'Identity of Muslim student suspected of hate-crime hoax may soon be revealed', I started wondering if we should publish the names and pictures of all individuals who staged hate crimes, in order to prevent others from doing the same.


Identity of Muslim student suspected of hate-crime hoax may soon be revealed - The College Fix

It would have to be on a case by case basis. In cases where some individual or individuals were personally harmed or damaged by false allegations, absolutely yes. A more innocent prank that didn't really hurt anybody, we might have room for a bit of compassion, most especially if the person was remorseful and not likely to repeat the offense.

I wish it would become federal law, subject to heavy penalty, that when the media runs a hateful or suggestive headline that smears a person's reputation, and it turns out to be a lie, intended or unintended, the media should run an equally prominent headline in an equally prominent part of the paper or newscast admitting they screwed up and X is innocent and then devote as much time or column inches explaining how they wronged the person and deserved all the criticism anybody can direct at them. And they should have to run that every single day for a week.

I think that might restore some integrity to the corrupt and irresponsible media we now have.
 
Throw them in jail for the amount of time that the person they accused would get if they were found guilty.
 
Throw them in jail for the amount of time that the person they accused would get if they were found guilty.

I would be onboard with that if there were an actual victim, like if an actual individual was falsely accused. But if it was just some made up person who was accused I would dial it back. I'm not big on jail time for victimless crimes.
 
People who intentionally lie to the authorities and the media about being victims of hate crimes should be held accountable for actions and be tried for defamation. They're a burden to the legal system and a cancer to their own political causes.
 
I thought making a false report was already illegal? If media did it's job correctly they would at least verify there was a police report filed, and in this case they don't get any publicity and if they did and lied they go to jail.
 
While reading this 'Identity of Muslim student suspected of hate-crime hoax may soon be revealed', I started wondering if we should publish the names and pictures of all individuals who staged hate crimes, in order to prevent others from doing the same.


Identity of Muslim student suspected of hate-crime hoax may soon be revealed - The College Fix

You mean, should we instate punishment by means of exposure to public mob violence? No.

Everyone knows that people exposed to the media even as being suspects often wind up being attacked by the public. To do that intentionally is profoundly unethical and cruel.

If we want to punish them (which I am not opposed to doing in some circumstances), we have a correctional system we can use to do so in a controlled manner, without risk of uncontrollable violence. Use it.
 
You mean, should we instate punishment by means of exposure to public mob violence? No.

And your evidence that public mob violence would ensue is?

[Qupte]Everyone knows that people exposed to the media even as being suspects often wind up being attacked by the public. To do that intentionally is profoundly unethical and cruel.[/quote]

We do it with sex offenders in many states. It helps to educate parents. I find it more unethical to give people light sentences, and then let them slip anonymously back into the public to do it again.

[Qupote]If we want to punish them (which I am not opposed to doing in some circumstances), we have a correctional system we can use to do so in a controlled manner, without risk of uncontrollable violence. Use it.[/QUOTE]

Again, where's your proof that people who staged hate crimes have ever been the target of "uncontrollable violence"?
 
I would be onboard with that if there were an actual victim, like if an actual individual was falsely accused. But if it was just some made up person who was accused I would dial it back. I'm not big on jail time for victimless crimes.

False reporting of a crime doesn't always produce a victim, but it's still a crime.
 
False reporting of a crime doesn't always produce a victim, but it's still a crime.

Well, that is filing a false police report and takes police resources away from working real cases. Obviously that is a crime. I was thinking more along the lines of telling your false story through social media or something.
 
Should the Names & Pictures of Hate Crime Hoaxers be Published Online?

No of course that shouldn't be a "policy" or rule.
False reporting is already a crime, "if" those crimes arent actually being pursued that needs to change.

Didnt vote, most polls that arent public are bad polls.
 
While reading this 'Identity of Muslim student suspected of hate-crime hoax may soon be revealed', I started wondering if we should publish the names and pictures of all individuals who staged hate crimes, in order to prevent others from doing the same.


Identity of Muslim student suspected of hate-crime hoax may soon be revealed - The College Fix

Wait a sec.....

CNN and Yahoo news is "ILLEGITIMATE!" to you, but a college newspaper is authority?





Anyway, I'd have no problem with hate crime hoaxers' identity being exposed, but I rather do wonder why certain people seem to be so single-mindedly determined to deny the existence of actual racism.
 
Wait a sec.....

CNN and Yahoo news is "ILLEGITIMATE!" to you, but a college newspaper is authority?





Anyway, I'd have no problem with hate crime hoaxers' identity being exposed, but I rather do wonder why certain people seem to be so single-mindedly determined to deny the existence of actual racism.

Cool, vote in the poll and make your opinion official.
 
Kill them all, and quickly.

Maybe just subject them to the hostilities that they are faking. That would prove to them that real is the deal. Not to be made fun of.
 
Wait a sec.....

CNN and Yahoo news is "ILLEGITIMATE!" to you, but a college newspaper is authority?

Anyway, I'd have no problem with hate crime hoaxers' identity being exposed, but I rather do wonder why certain people seem to be so single-mindedly determined to deny the existence of actual racism.

Cool, vote in the poll and make your opinion official.



But I need to know that your college student newspaper is a more valid source of factual news than CNN or Yahoo. I wouldn't want to vote in a fake poll, now would I?
 
But I need to know that your college student newspaper is a more valid source of factual news than CNN or Yahoo. I wouldn't want to vote in a fake poll, now would I?

Info sent.

"Sent"? I don't see any PMs popping up.

Just post it. Other people are entitled to know why this college newspaper is so much more trustworthy than the named media sources.
 


That's the Washington Post. You only found that article on 1/11/17. You didn't cite that in your OP, which was from 1/9/17, when you didn't know about the Washington Post article.

I asked you why you treated the college newspaper as a legitimate source in your OP. Do you have an answer for that or are you going to keep dishonestly moving goal posts?

Or perhaps you'd like to explain to me how it is that a Washington Post article you found on 1/11/17 proves that you had reason to trust a college newspaper article you found on 1/9/17?




(Interesting, though. You think liberal CNN and liberal Yahoo are ILLEGITIMATE! when you don't like what they said, but you consider liberal Washington Post LEGITIMATE! when you do like what they say.

Why is that?)

Buh bye. :2wave:
 
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That's the Washington Post. You only found that article on 1/11/17. You didn't cite that in your OP, which was from 1/9/17, when you didn't know about the Washington Post article.

I asked you why you treated the college newspaper as a legitimate source in your OP. Do you have an answer for that or are you going to keep dishonestly moving goal posts?

Or perhaps you'd like to explain to me how it is that a Washington Post article you found on 1/11/17 proves that you had reason to trust a college newspaper article you found on 1/9/17?




(Interesting, though. You think liberal CNN and liberal Yahoo are ILLEGITIMATE! when you don't like what they said, but you consider liberal Washington Post LEGITIMATE! when you do like what they say.

Why is that?)

Buh bye. :2wave:

Is there any reason why you're discussing another thread here? I'm trying to accommodate you, but you're being weird. Would you like to discuss the other thread on the other thread? Isn't that what Mods would tell us to do?
 
Is there any reason why you're discussing another thread here?

How many times do I have to explain to you that I'm interested in hearing your reasons - the reasons you had on 1/9/17, not 1/11/17 - for automatically assuming that a college student newspaper was a legitimate source?

It's a simple question.


Stop trying to play mod and answer it. Or, admit the real reason you ran with it.
 
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