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A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud[W:40]

Which of these options would help to reduce election fraud?

  • Newly refurbished background check certificated

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • Polling stations moved to urban areas

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • Free bussing for citizens over 69 to polling stations

    Votes: 5 83.3%

  • Eliminate the military absentee ballot

    Votes: 5 83.3%

  • Newly supplies 501(c)(3) status

    Votes: 4 66.7%
  • Total voters
    6
Re: A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud

Cardinal said:
Demonstrably not, since he doesn't see a problem with 17,000,000 non-US citizens using absentee military ballots to cancel out the votes of enlisted men and women.
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Why don't you just admit that your idea is nothing but a way to discourage those in the service from voting because you know that most vote Republican.
 
Re: A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud

Moderate Right said:
Why don't you just admit that your idea is nothing but a way to discourage those in the service from voting because you know that most vote Republican.
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So you believe that Republicans are inherently prone to committing voter fraud, then. Okay. I don't agree, but if that's how you feel...
 
Re: A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud

Cardinal said:
Demonstrably not, since he doesn't see a problem with 17,000,000 non-US citizens using absentee military ballots to cancel out the votes of enlisted men and women.
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You just make things up to suit your extreme partisanship.
 
Re: A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud

Cardinal said:
So you believe that Republicans are inherently prone to committing voter fraud, then. Okay. I don't agree, but if that's how you feel...
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You're a real piece of work.
 
Re: A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud

RetiredNSmilin said:
Perhaps I was misunderstood, Cardinal.
I apologize, so tell me where I am wrong here.
AS I UNDERSTAND YOUR OP....

You also want to keep any deployed US military personnel from voting too, IAW (In Accordance With) point number 4.
It is a little hard to put voting machines on a submarine, frigate or carrier.

Last I looked, they were also US citizens and have that right.
I have always voted absentee when deployed boring holes in the water.

...and....a few NON-citizens who are putting their ass on the line should be able to vote too.
Anyone who signs on the dotted line to have the possibility of dying for this country is aces in my book.
Unlike the spoiled kids of liberal elites who find if fun to burn the flag and each and every opportunity.
I will not 'dis" anyone who will voluntarily put themselves in a foxhole for America and face her enemies.
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I applaud that you are the only one i've seen here with the integrity to admit that you genuinely want to infringe on the rights of liberals to vote.
 
Cardinal said:
The past year has been a particularly contentious election cycle, culminating in a brutally contested election result with some claiming ballot box tampering on one side and up to three million illegally cast votes on the other. Therefore I have some modest proposals to increase the integrity of the electoral system in preparation for the upcoming 2018 election. All of these proposals would be specifically aimed to eliminate the possibility of illegal aliens or other non-US citizens from voting. Please read carefully and vote.

1. All people with firearms would need to supply certifications for newly performed Federal and State background checks. The certificates would need to be less than a week old in order to mitigate the chances that illegal aliens forged them so they could vote in the election. The newly performed checks would also have the bonus of catching felons with warrants for their arrest as well as finding and deporting illegal aliens before they even reached the polling stations.


2. All polling stations would be relocated to major urban centers so they would have full technical and emergency support. Rural areas frequently lack internet, phone, and police and medical access in the event of an emergency. This would, again, provide the opportunity catch illegal aliens who attempt to vote and throw the election toward their preferred candidate.


3. Voters over 69 are frequently using absentee ballots due to being too infirm to travel, but there's little way to make certain that these people are properly registered. Therefore, the city would provide free bussing to polling stations. All other necessary assistance would be provided free of charge.


4. Eliminate the military absentee ballot. In 2016 seventeen million non-US citizens voted illegally in the election using the military absentee ballot. This has effectively canceled out the votes of our brave and honorable servicemen. Instead of the absentee ballot, all servicemen would have one day to vote at a polling station in person while in rotation back to the United States.


5. Evangelical Protestant and Mormon churches as well as their attendees would need to supply proof of their 501(c)(3) status. Again, in order to prevent illegal immigrants from voting.


Source:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...graphic-groups-for-republicans-and-democrats/
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If I read through the thread, the answers from the usual suspects will be "no, because voter fraud only helps Dems. Politicians who say they are on my side told me so", yes?
 
Re: A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud

Kobie said:
You do realize Kennedy was 65 years ago, yes?
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I'd check your math on that...
 
Mr Person said:
If I read through the thread, the answers from the usual suspects will be "no, because voter fraud only helps Dems. Politicians who say they are on my side told me so", yes?
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You may have to substitute "liberal" for "Dem" but, essentially, yes--

TurtleDude said:
yeah it appears to be a bait thread aimed at conservative voters. when in reality, vote fraud tends to be a liberal proclivity. The Conservative counterpart is making it harder for those with low intellects, ambitions or competency to vote.
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Re: A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud

TurtleDude said:
yeah it appears to be a bait thread aimed at conservative voters. when in reality, vote fraud tends to be a liberal proclivity. The Conservative counterpart is making it harder for those with low intellects, ambitions or competency to vote.
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You have had some experience marshalling the evidence, I must assume.


So what's your evidence? The Bush DOJ came up with either 86 or 87 cases of technically invalidly cast ballot, but not fraudulently cast ballots, after searching from 2003-2007. Another thing I wish I could remember the link to came up with about 30-40 cases of actual prosecuted vote fraud over some period of time I don't recall, but in national elections, and only about 30% of them were convicted.

If you're going to say that "vote fraud" is a liberal thing (in a response that sort of implies you think vote fraud is significant as to election result), then please provide some genuine evidence of vote fraud.


That's emphasized because when I say this exact thing, my post is either ignored or I get a response that cites something regarding mis-match between death records and voter registration lists, or persons charged with trying to buy local elections, etc. I'm talking national because that's the general subject.

Do you have anything? I mean, if this is real and big enough to influence national elections in any way, I will get 100% behind voter ID type laws (so long as the law itself is drafted to avoid shenanigans like in WI. Said shenanigans were that after the law was passed, places you could get an ID had reduced hours imposed in D-heavy areas, and similar places had hours extended in R-heavy areas).




Nobody actually wants vote fraud. I'm willing to bet that the candidates don't either, because if it turns out that someone was elected by it, they're probably done....whether or not they were involved.
 
Cardinal said:
The past year has been a particularly contentious election cycle, culminating in a brutally contested election result with some claiming ballot box tampering on one side and up to three million illegally cast votes on the other. Therefore I have some modest proposals to increase the integrity of the electoral system in preparation for the upcoming 2018 election. All of these proposals would be specifically aimed to eliminate the possibility of illegal aliens or other non-US citizens from voting. Please read carefully and vote.

1. All people with firearms would need to supply certifications for newly performed Federal and State background checks. The certificates would need to be less than a week old in order to mitigate the chances that illegal aliens forged them so they could vote in the election. The newly performed checks would also have the bonus of catching felons with warrants for their arrest as well as finding and deporting illegal aliens before they even reached the polling stations.


2. All polling stations would be relocated to major urban centers so they would have full technical and emergency support. Rural areas frequently lack internet, phone, and police and medical access in the event of an emergency. This would, again, provide the opportunity catch illegal aliens who attempt to vote and throw the election toward their preferred candidate.


3. Voters over 69 are frequently using absentee ballots due to being too infirm to travel, but there's little way to make certain that these people are properly registered. Therefore, the city would provide free bussing to polling stations. All other necessary assistance would be provided free of charge.


4. Eliminate the military absentee ballot. In 2016 seventeen million non-US citizens voted illegally in the election using the military absentee ballot. This has effectively canceled out the votes of our brave and honorable servicemen. Instead of the absentee ballot, all servicemen would have one day to vote at a polling station in person while in rotation back to the United States.


5. Evangelical Protestant and Mormon churches as well as their attendees would need to supply proof of their 501(c)(3) status. Again, in order to prevent illegal immigrants from voting.


Source:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...graphic-groups-for-republicans-and-democrats/
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I do like #4.
 
tres borrachos said:
I do like #4.
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Some of us liked it too! So much so we asked for some statistical support for the obviously asinine claim. We got a link to two different social media pages of some bleeding moron that also has a thing for the Oddjob character. What's funny is that it looks like the "character" is wearing the wrong kind of felt hat. That thing has to be made of painted tin foil. :stooges
 
Sardonicus said:
Some of us liked it too! So much so we asked for some statistical support for the obviously asinine claim. We got a link to two different social media pages of some bleeding moron that also has a thing for the Oddjob character. What's funny is that it looks like the "character" is wearing the wrong kind of felt hat. That thing has to be made of painted tin foil. :stooges
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The OP has completely failed in this thread. It's one of the most embarrassing threads I have ever seen a liberal make.
 
USViking said:
Hey folks, that "Twaddle McGee" Twitter account has one message and an Oddjob site ID photo.
I am beginning to think that Cardinal Copro might really be a very Liberal type who is playing
a very deep game of caricature here.
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Ya' think?? :lamo
 
Re: A modest proposal for eliminating election fraud

humbolt said:
I've been hearing for years and years that there is no voting fraud. Given that I have been expected to accept that, why should I be concerned now?
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You shouldn't, there is no change. There is no voter fraud of the magnitude that would change the outcome of an election.
 
Sardonicus said:
Some of us liked it too! So much so we asked for some statistical support for the obviously asinine claim. We got a link to two different social media pages of some bleeding moron that also has a thing for the Oddjob character. What's funny is that it looks like the "character" is wearing the wrong kind of felt hat. That thing has to be made of painted tin foil. :stooges
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Moderate Right said:
The OP has completely failed in this thread. It's one of the most embarrassing threads I have ever seen a liberal make.
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I've got to admit: Nothing gets past you guys! :thumbs:
 
Chomsky said:
I've got to admit: Nothing gets past you guys! :thumbs:
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Well if my last five post did not clue you in I guess nothing can get past you Colombo! Seriously speaking though, since I am relatively new to DP I'm still getting to figure out who is here to do what. So yeah as others here have stated, obvious troll thread is obvious troll thread. Only problem is I notice not only the same asinine claim about military ballots but other obviously bogus statistical claims in other threads, coming from Oddjob. With frequency. So it is nice once in a while when someone self identifies. Besides, don't look now but I think someone moderator box quoted themselves out of their own troll thread. ;)
 
Sardonicus said:
Well if my last five post did not clue you in I guess nothing can get past you Colombo! Seriously speaking though, since I am relatively new to DP I'm still getting to figure out who is here to do what. So yeah as others here have stated, obvious troll thread is obvious troll thread. Only problem is I notice not only the same asinine claim about military ballots but other obviously bogus statistical claims in other threads, coming from Oddjob. With frequency. So it is nice once in a while when someone self identifies. Besides, don't look now but I think someone moderator box quoted themselves out of their own troll thread. ;)
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Fair enough.

No harm, no foul!
 
Chomsky said:
Fair enough.

No harm, no foul!
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Well said. Here is my caveat. I'm not here to troll, but naturally participation in a forum like this does entail some of that. I get that some people have more time on their hands than others, so they do a lot more of that than they do debating. But in my opinion it is advisable to get an idea of who is a waste of time engaging in so called debate with and who is not. Threads like this are not only very amusing, but helpful in illustration of the don't waste your time trying to get clarity from an onion department. As I had seen Oddjob throw out a very similar mathematically asinine claim about military ballots elsewhere? Let's just say I stand behind my earlier comments about the 'crash survey course in typical internet hackery' nature of this thread. ;)
 
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