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Would Stein have pushed for the recounts if Hillary had won?

Would Stein have pushed for the recounts if Hillary had won?

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She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?
 
No, absolutely not. I think if the election were reversed, she would have just faded away into obscurity.
 
X Factor said:
She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?
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No, of course not. HC and her supporters are funding the recount.
 
X Factor said:
She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?
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Of course she wouldn't have. In fact, none of this Electoral College is BS rhetoric would have happened either (not from the Clinton camp anyway).
 
X Factor said:
She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?
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It would have created an equal amount of visibility for her if not even more. And it would have been more believably impartial.
 
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joG said:
It would have created an equal amount of visibility as for her if not even more. And it would have been more believably impartial.
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It's not about her visibility. Somebody is funding this nonsense, and it's not the candidate who barely funded her 1% attempt to be relevant. It wouldn't be Trump. That leaves Hillary and the liberals, but for the life of me I can't figure out why.
 
TheGoverness said:
Of course she wouldn't have. In fact, none of this Electoral College is BS rhetoric would have happened either (not from the Clinton camp anyway).
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Very true. I've heard this thing called the "Blue Wall", which, I believe refers to this idea that a Repub would never become president again because of the EC in a certain block of states would keep that from happening. Dems were sure in favor of the EC before that Blue Wall crumbled.
 
X Factor said:
She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?
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Nope, the "shocking" part of the election results that triggered this nonsense were traditionally solid blue states that just barely turned red this time. She assumed that could only have been from the results of some kind of electoral process trickery and that a fair amount of excess money could be gotten from those of like mind.
 
jimbo said:
It's not about her visibility. Somebody is funding this nonsense, and it's not the candidate who barely funded her 1% attempt to be relevant. It wouldn't be Trump. That leaves Hillary and the liberals, but for the life of me I can't figure out why.
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It would make more sense to think of parties with deep pockets intent on destabilization. But I imagine that will remain in the dark for now.
 
My contempt for Stein is strong. I therefore may be operating under the assumption that she is no better than most 3rd party leaders or their rank and file in most of America's history. They are incredibly self-absorbed and besides engaging in strange arguments about which utopia to create, want to boast about their increased voter shares, or attempt to prove that they have increased their voter share.
 
X Factor said:
She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?
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Nope.She and her fellow leftists would be mocking those calling for a recount as conspiracy theorists and probably accusing them of trying to steal the vote from black voters.
 
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X Factor said:
She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?
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You cant put an option like "Dak/Zeke for president" and expect me not to choose it
 
Fiddytree said:
My contempt for Stein is strong. I therefore may be operating under the assumption that she is no better than most 3rd party leaders or their rank and file in most of America's history. They are incredibly self-absorbed and besides engaging in strange arguments about which utopia to create, want to boast about their increased voter shares, or attempt to prove that they have increased their voter share.
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Every left leaning podcast hates her, and Nate Silver came right out and seriously suggested donors should look into legal recourse to recoup their money.
 
X Factor said:
She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?
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Would Pat McCrory have demanded a recount if he had won by the same margin he had lost?
 
Cardinal said:
Every left leaning podcast hates her, and Nate Silver came right out and seriously suggested donors should look into legal recourse to recoup their money.
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Because the millions she raised for recounts were essentially treated like Green Party fundraising revenues.
 
Fiddytree said:
Because the millions she raised for recounts were essentially treated like Green Party fundraising revenues.
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Is it possible, from the passive comfort of the internet, to see what she raised vs. what she spent on the recount effort?
 
Cardinal said:
Is it possible, from the passive comfort of the internet, to see what she raised vs. what she spent on the recount effort?
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Maybe. I wouldn't know. But since the Green Party and most of the Democratic Party are of no interest to me, I wouldn't spend much time searching for such transparency and accountability.
 
I had to choose "No" because there wasn't a "Not in a million ****ing years" poll option. :wink:
 
Ockham said:
I had to choose "No" because there wasn't a "Not in a million ****ing years" poll option. :wink:
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Because candidates are normally in the habit of demanding recounts for elections they won.
 
jimbo said:
It's not about her visibility. Somebody is funding this nonsense, and it's not the candidate who barely funded her 1% attempt to be relevant. It wouldn't be Trump. That leaves Hillary and the liberals, but for the life of me I can't figure out why.
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The "why" is quite clear.

Hillary doesn't care about the BS Stein has been spouting. Stein doesn't either. It's all about either changing the vote in those particular States or preventing those State's Electoral Votes from being counted. That would prevent Trump from becoming President.
 
Cardinal said:
Because candidates are normally in the habit of demanding recounts for elections they won.
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Stein lost in 2012... didn't raise money for a recount. She lost in 2008 as well.... no recount. Wonder why..... :think:
 
Ockham said:
Stein lost in 2012... didn't raise money for a recount. She lost in 2008 as well.... no recount. Wonder why..... :think:
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Which is utterly irrelevant to my point. The OP is creating a narrative that demanding a recount after losing is somehow unique or unscrupulous in some way.

Would Pat McCrory have demanded a recount if he had won by the same margin he had lost?
 
Cardinal said:
Which is utterly irrelevant to my point. The OP is creating a narrative that demanding a recount after losing is somehow unique or unscrupulous in some way.

Would Pat McCrory have demanded a recount if he had won by the same margin he had lost?
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Why would a candidate who got less than 5% of the vote, want a recount?
 
Cardinal said:
Because she can and it's legal and it's her donors' money.
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To what end? what does she gain from it? does she not have anything better to do? True, though if soros wants to pay for it, ALL of it, as in no tax dollars used, then who cares.
 
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