Would Stein have pushed for the recounts if Hillary had won?

ReverendHellh0und said:

To what end? what does she gain from it? does she not have anything better to do? True, though if soros wants to pay for it, ALL of it, as in no tax dollars used, then who cares.

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Does nobody who demands a recount have anything better to do? Do you have nothing better to do than be on DP?

Speaking of which, time to start the work day...

Ikari said:

No, absolutely not. I think if the election were reversed, she would have just faded away into obscurity.

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She might have become the EPA chief.

Ikari said:

No, absolutely not. I think if the election were reversed, she would have just faded away into obscurity.

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According to the number of votes she got....she was already in obscurity limbo.

Stein and the Greenies are the gift that keeps on giving to the GOP .

Mycroft said:

The "why" is quite clear.

Hillary doesn't care about the BS Stein has been spouting. Stein doesn't either. It's all about either changing the vote in those particular States or preventing those State's Electoral Votes from being counted. That would prevent Trump from becoming President.

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It wopild be very difficult to come up with a situation where Trump would not be President. The best that could be hoped for is that the election would be thrown to the house. Trump would win in the House.

Cardinal said:

Every left leaning podcast hates her, and Nate Silver came right out and seriously suggested donors should look into legal recourse to recoup their money.

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That's Hillaryous. But then to legally seek recourse would expose that wealthy Hillary backers were funding this nonsense.

Cardinal said:

Because she can and it's legal and it's her donors' money.

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Which as you very well know is not an answer to the question asked. It's rather obvious why you don't want to answer that question but you just dodging is just making you look silly.

Cardinal said:

Which is utterly irrelevant to my point. The OP is creating a narrative that demanding a recount after losing is somehow unique or unscrupulous in some way.

Would Pat McCrory have demanded a recount if he had won by the same margin he had lost?

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It's entirely relevant. Losing to Hillary would still make Stein the loser and my question is whether Stein would still want the recounts if she had lost to Hillary instead of Donald.

If the same perceived irregularities existed then yes, she would have. It is the kind of thing the Greens do. Whether or not she would have raised enough money to do it is another matter.

BrewerBob said:

If the same perceived irregularities existed then yes, she would have. It is the kind of thing the Greens do. Whether or not she would have raised enough money to do it is another matter.

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One thing that can't be overstated is the impressive amount of contempt Stein has for Clinton. She already smacked down Clinton's team for getting involved in the recount, so could I see her demanding a recount under identical circumstances if Clinton had won? I'm really not so sure I'd count out the possibility.

I just went to Stein's twitter page to get a few juicy examples, but the whole damn feed is one long anti-Clinton/Trump smackdown.

X Factor said:

It's entirely relevant. Losing to Hillary would still make Stein the loser and my question is whether Stein would still want the recounts if she had lost to Hillary instead of Donald.

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.....and crickets. :lol:

No but as a Stein voter, i'm ok with it, because it's ultimately the right thing to do. The guy who lost the popular vote is in office and isn't making absolutely sure the votes are counted correctly only a good thing?

Really though, i can turn this question on its head in so many ways: Would Trump had demanded a recall if the outcome were reversed? Hell yes! He's such a sore winner about this he's gone full on conspiracy mode about 3 million+ illegal immigrant votes going to his opponent

Would libertarian right winger Gary Johnson, or any number of republicans and fellow right wingers, have backed a recount if the outcome were reverse? Most definitely

X Factor said:

Very true. I've heard this thing called the "Blue Wall", which, I believe refers to this idea that a Repub would never become president again because of the EC in a certain block of states would keep that from happening. Dems were sure in favor of the EC before that Blue Wall crumbled.

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That recent political assessment never meant that they'd win those states while losing the popular vote. This would be preposterous, given the Dem lead in California and NY alone. It just meant that they had the 270 electoral votes wrapped up. Really it's such a rare occurrence (only 4x ever including this) and things are always in flux, like Texas becoming purple, that to accuse a particular party of this tactic means either you're a huge fan of the EC, or you're being very defensive about how badly your candidate lost the popular. With how hated the EC is by voters, no candidate is likely to support it publicly. Hillary sure never did. So not sure where you get that from

Now as for supporting/not supporting the EC until there's something to gain in the opposite direction...

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy."
“The phoney [sic] electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one! [sic]”

- Donald Trump in 2012, when he believed Romney would win the popular vote but not the EC

Funny how the perpetual loudmouth isn't saying that now. I would like to see you defend THIS hypocrisy

she pushed for recounts in the 3 states which polled more in favor for clinton than Colorado, NH, and nevada, all 3 were won by clinton

Of course she wouldn't have. Like most Liberals and Progressives, she just wanted to throw a tantrum.

ajn678 said:

Of course she wouldn't have. Like most Liberals and Progressives, she just wanted to throw a tantrum.

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Some conservatives did the same thing when Obama won by claiming he wasn't born here, that his birth certificate was photoshopped(for some reason it doesn't occur to those idiots that if Obama was going to fake his birth certificate he would get a actual blank birth certificate,have the appropriate information typed in thus making it impossible for anyone to tell it was a fake) and that he was some secret Muslim. And before Obama left wing loonies claim Bush stole the elections, lied for war, and went awol while on national guard duty.Heck people probably did the same thing to Clinton,the first Bush, Reagan and other presidents before.Its that today with the internet people have more access to conspiracy sites and partisan hack newsites.

X Factor said:

She's going around making speeches about how this has nothing to do with Trump and how she's just concerned with having fair and accurate voting, and yet I notice she's not concerned about those things where Hillary won by a small margin. So, let's say it was Hillary who had won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by the exact same margins, do you think Stein would have pushed for recounts?

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I think I may have clicked "YES" when I meant to click "NO". So, your vote tally may be off. Sorry...