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Would You Support A Burqa Ban In USofA?

Would you support a Burqa Ban in USA?

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Hawkeye10 said:
Then maybe sometimes what they claim as part of their religious duty we have to say no too.

I am not interested in for instance human sacrifice, nor Burqa's.
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Human sacrifice interferes with the right of the person being sacrificed to practice their own religion. Burqa's are a choice of clothing. The only way another person's freedom can go "too far" is if it starts to impact the freedom of someone else. Nothing about these women's choice impacts anybody other than themselves. You fail religious freedom 101.
 
MrWonka said:
Human sacrifice interferes with the right of the person being sacrificed to practice their own religion. Burqa's are a choice of clothing. The only way another person's freedom can go "too far" is if it starts to impact the freedom of someone else. Nothing about these women's choice impacts anybody other than themselves. You fail religious freedom 101.
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Wrong, all they would need to do to get around that problem is ask for volunteers, if we allowed it, which we dont, for great reasons. And you are right, as a socialist I am most certainly not an individual freedom zealot.
 
shrubnose said:
Anyone who hates all members of any group because of what some members of that group do is a bigot.
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Anyone who does not back up what they say is a dumbass.
 
shrubnose said:
Anyone who hates all members of any group because of what some members of that group do is a bigot.
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Exactly, and uneducated at that.

Ignorance and fear walk hand-in-hand.
 
MrWonka said:
You don't get to decide what you mean by freedom of religion. Either people have the freedom to worship their religion or they don't.
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If you were paying attention you would know that burkas are not required or mentioned in the Koran. So it really is not a religious thing in as much as Muslims want to separate themselves from the rest of society and use it to their advantage.
 
SMTA said:
Exactly, and uneducated at that.

Ignorance and fear walk hand-in-hand.
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And what works hand in hand with claiming something and not proving it? You should not shoot your mouth off using blanks.
 
coldjoint said:
If you were paying attention you would know that burkas are not required or mentioned in the Koran. So it really is not a religious thing in as much as Muslims want to separate themselves from the rest of society and use it to their advantage.
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Based on your logic, make sure to add teenagers wearing hoodies to your personal terrorist list.
 
SMTA said:
Based on your logic, make sure to add teenagers wearing hoodies to your personal terrorist list.
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Show me how Christians killed more people than anyone. It is what you claimed. Or you could take it back because you know it is bull****. My logic has 0 to do with your claim.
 
coldjoint said:
Show me how Christians killed more people than anyone. It is what you claimed. Or you could take it back because you know it is bull****. My logic has 0 to do with your claim.
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Your posting logic is hateful, blind, devoid of common sense, un-Christian and based upon Youtube videos.

What's not to laugh about that? :lamo
 
SMTA said:
Your posting logic is hateful, blind, devoid of common sense, un-Christian and based upon Youtube videos.

What's not to laugh about that? :lamo
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What does that have to do with your claim? You are spreading disinformation with 0 proof. Criticizing me is not the topic of the thread. Now some proof or run along.
 
coldjoint said:
What does that have to do with your claim? You are spreading disinformation with 0 proof. Criticizing me is not the topic of the thread. Now some proof or run along.
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You heard the bell?

Hint: the Christian numbers are bigger.
 
coldjoint said:
If you were paying attention you would know that burkas are not required or mentioned in the Koran. So it really is not a religious thing in as much as Muslims want to separate themselves from the rest of society and use it to their advantage.
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I understand now.
 
I would, reluctantly, support a ban in a few specific situations, such as entering banks or flights. We already ban Sikhs from carrying the knives that all males above 12 are supposed to carry.
 
Covering one's face in public can be a security issue. In private places we should never, of course, ban any clothing. In public places, clothing can be restricted and there can be requirements (such as must wear pants/etc). People can't generally go about in ski masks. Police would reasonably inquire 'sup. Knowing it's a religious face cover doesn't really change the security risk to the public.




Deuce said:
But this logic would apply to anything covering someone's face, and any loose clothing. But people scoff when I bring that up. I can only conclude this isn't the real motivation for a burka ban.

On US soil, Islamic terrorists kill fewer people than stairs. This is the basis for your compelling government interest?
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It's not Islamic terrorists that are feared. Islamic terrorists presumably would not wear burkas, they would be disguised as "average Americans". It's everyone else that could use it to wear a mask in public without scrutiny that presents a security risk. Instead of just counting Islamic terrorists, which wouldn't anyway, count every criminal that wants an easy mask.

If we've become so afraid that people can't even be trusted to wear clothing other than what the government approves, we've lost.
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It's not some external regime deciding what to wear, like uniforms or something. It's we, the people, thinking no face covers in public (in general). Why do you turn a legitimate security concern - giving all criminals a 24/7 public face cover - into some kind of pro-1984 strawman?
 
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Eric7216 said:
I would, reluctantly, support a ban in a few specific situations, such as entering banks or flights. We already ban Sikhs from carrying the knives that all males above 12 are supposed to carry.
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You might want to look that one up, at least as far as the US goes. New York and Ohio have ruled that such bans are unconstitutional, and even the TSA is allowed to permit them on planes, but are also allowed to confiscate them if they feel it is necessary. From what I understand though is that some everyday Kirpans are actually just a few inches long, while the ceremonial ones are the ones that can be up to three feet long.
 
Is there a problem with people wearing burqas to commit crimes? If no, then no they should not be banned. If yes, then I could see some restrictions if there was a high enough incidence of it.

Of course, in a cold climate, it might be dangerous to ban face coverings:

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Dragonfly said:
:roll:

For the ten thousandth time, the burqa is not a religious garment. It's a cultural garment from a very distinct region of the world.

The burqa is no more Muslim than female circumcision is.
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... Do Christians in the region wear burqas?
 
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