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Do you hold people's political views against them?

Do you hold people's political views against them?

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Depends. Are they an utter jackass?


If so, yes. :)
 
Goshin said:
Depends. Are they an utter jackass?


If so, yes. :)
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But is that holding their views against them or is that holding there jackassedness against them?
 
X Factor said:
But is that holding their views against them or is that holding there jackassedness against them?
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I try not to. There are people I love dearly who hold political views quite contrary to my own; I love them anyway and try not to let it color my view of them too much.
 
Depends on the person, the view, and their position on that view. Sometimes it's easier to ignore them. Sometimes it's an interesting exercise to listen to them try to explain why they hold certain views. Sometimes it's a learning experience for me and/or them. But, sometimes they just piss me off and so I go back to ignoring them.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Depends on the person, the view, and their position on that view. Sometimes it's easier to ignore them. Sometimes it's an interesting exercise to listen to them try to explain why they hold certain views. Sometimes it's a learning experience for me and/or them. But, sometimes they just piss me off and so I go back to ignoring them.
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This is pretty much how it is for me too. Athough, I do try my best to listen to other people's POV as much as I can.
 
If you are reasonable, I don't care about your politics. If you are a nut job- right wing or left wing- I will hold it against you.
 
It depends.

If we are talking about differences between economics or trade policies, or gun policies, or other such matters, no, probably not. Hell even differences of religion don't normally interfere with things for me.

But if your views include contempt or hatred for people who are systematically discriminated against, then yes, I will hold your hateful views against you. I have cut off former friends and even a couple family members because they got so bad in this regard, and I have ZERO regrets about having done so. In fact my life is literally better off without them.
 
I needed multiple choice. I try not to but sometimes it happens.


I believe everyone has the right to decide what is best for them and their families and if that opinion is different from mine then maybe I will learn something from them. However what really chafes my hide is when a person believes that their views must be forced onto everyone else even if it takes the choice away from others especially when other people choices would not affect them in any way. They simply do not want people to be able to chose to do something they do not agree with. That I do hold against people. I am terrible at explaining myself. I hope that made sense.
 
"Rarely, if ever.

I genuinely like people, and like being around others. I wouldn't let something like politics distract from my enjoyment of others, unless there'a some really untoward point held.
 
If you want to ban all Muslim immigrants & visitors, make abortion a felony, ban Gay marriage, legalize discrimination against Gays in housing, employment & education, strip Americans of their citizenship for burning the American flag, force local police to enforce Federal immigration law or lose all Federal funding for their municipality, nuke Iran, kiss Russia's ass, ban Muslim attire, then I will not only reject your friendship but I am likely to spit in your Cheerios.
 
Chomsky said:
"Rarely, if ever.

I genuinely like people, and like being around others.
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I'm the complete opposite. I'm very reserved and anti-social.

I am not a people person.
 
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Redress said:
Hold it against them how?
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I guess in the sense that you have a more negative view of someone as a person because they profess to believe as they do.
 
Chomsky said:
"Rarely, if ever.

I genuinely like people, and like being around others.
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It may not come across here so much but I'm the same way in RL.
 
Typically not, most people tend to be fairly moderate, they just have two choices for politics though.

But if they starting arguing politics and their "sources" are clearly hyper partisan, I hold that against them. (not having these sense to take it with a grain of salt).
 
No, never. I don't even know what the lean is of most people here, it's definitely not something I remember. Been here 6 years and the majority of people I'm familiar with I dont know thier posted lean.

Also to be clear I made my answer the way it is because of the way the question is worded. I could hold a persons views against them but it wouldn't be political. I don't think I would hold any "political label" against anybody, If a person had a view that all women are just baby factory whores that need to be barefoot, in the kitchen and any other place a man tells them to be I would judge them on that. :shrug: But I wouldn't consider that a "political" view :shrug:
 
X Factor said:
It may not come across here so much but I'm the same way in RL.
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Yeah, but I'm a bit like Neil Young in "On the Beach":

"I need a crowd of people - But I can't face them everyday"

One of the better lines around!


 
When it comes to policies that directly impact me and those that I love, yes, it's influential. Folks I know are being pressured to give up custody of their kids in order to receive services that are mandated by federal law, but aren't being given because of political games. Kids I know and have been trying to help were [ ] close to being locked up in an institution *for life* because--again--my state wasn't doing its job in providing home support services to those kids And their families. But when they come up in political discussion or at a legislative session, you can't easily avoid the consequences of those issues.

Politics isn't a game to me. I can be gracious, understanding, and interested in building bridges, but it's not some parlor game. Many people I know had to give up family and friends when it comes to these issues, because they are that hard hitting and personal. I have friends that are conservatives, liberals, socialists, and nationalists, but some things *are* going to be tough to overcome. Those issues are either politely ignored or they can drive a wedge between them. It's completely understandable if the stakes are high and the social differences are outstanding.

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Sometimes I hold people's political views against them, particularly those people who regularly harp to me an opinion they know I strongly disagree with... like spamming me with unwanted, non-personal opinionated emails. I have had several people continue to do this even after I asked them to stop. Sometimes these disagreements resulted in discontinuing a relationship.
In a forum like this, where we seek political debate, I fully expect agreement, disagreement, indifference and an array of emotions. It comes with the territory.
 
If they're in your face about it and say things that I know are not true, but when corrected keep hammering away, then yes I hold it against 'em, because it tells what kind of person they are. I have a great many really conservative friends and they are all great people. As such we agree on more political things that one would think.
 
My political views run the gamut, depending solely on issues involved. I'm am obviously socially liberal, but also hold some very strong conservative views. I judge people by how they behave. Do they post obvious fake news, then scream lies for months based upon it? Are they shameless hacks, who nod like bobble heads at one side, but are utterly blind when the side they agree with goes off the rails into CT territory? Does their political view totally define them as a person, or do they glance at a poster's lean before responding, agreeing with "their" side and acting like a total jackass to the "other" side, even if the post they are responding to is courteous, civil, and well thought out?

In short, I hold people's actions and behavior against them if it irritates me, and I tend to give a pass to those I politically disagree with if they conduct themselves pleasantly and are likeable people.

I will admit, however, that has been tested since the election. I seriously can't wrap my mind around this past year. I imagine others feel the same.
 
Phys251 said:
But if your views include contempt or hatred for people who are systematically discriminated against, then yes, I will hold your hateful views against you. I have cut off former friends and even a couple family members because they got so bad in this regard, and I have ZERO regrets about having done so. In fact my life is literally better off without them.
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I agree with you 100%. Sadly we would hold each others views against each other!
 
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