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Was the election "rigged"?

Was the election "rigged"?

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ModerateGOP said:
How did the media try to rig the election? Please explain. All I heard was how trump was doing this or that and he said this or that. I hardly ever heard hillary's name unless she coughed or said something nice and statesmen like.
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Come on ModerateGOP, do you honestly think anyone is going to buy what you just tried to sell?
 
X Factor said:
Seeing some funny stuff along these lines on both sides. Some lefties are actually now musing that it's possible after blasting Trump for suggesting it could happen while some righties are defending the election results and scoffing at even the possibility of fraud. So, where are you on this?
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If elections are rigged there would be no reason to spend Billions of dollars on them...
 
Abbazorkzog said:
No. The general election was not "rigged".
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Could it be carefully and selectively tampered with in certain areas while not in other areas where it was left alone?
 
Given that the mechanism we use to actually elect the President is weighted in favor of votes from the smallest of states at the expense of voters from the largest states - it most certainly is unfairly tilted to those smaller states votes. Does that constitute the election being RIGGED? Each person has to decide that for themselves.

It certainly violates our sacred principles.
 
ModerateGOP said:
I don't buy what you are selling. How did the media rig the election then?
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:doh

I'll play a little bit longer, but this type of stuff is such a waste of time.

Consider your comments:

All I heard was how trump was doing this or that and he said this or that. I hardly ever heard hillary's name unless she coughed or said something nice and statesmen like.​

All you heard about Trump was the fabricated lies about being a racist, etc.. It was never ending. And you didn't hear much about Hillary. Gee imagine that. All negative Trump, and bambi and thumper when it came to Hillary.

Think about that for a moment, and then get back to me.
 
ocean515 said:
:doh

I'll play a little bit longer, but this type of stuff is such a waste of time.

Consider your comments:

All I heard was how trump was doing this or that and he said this or that. I hardly ever heard hillary's name unless she coughed or said something nice and statesmen like.​

All you heard about Trump was the fabricated lies about being a racist, etc.. It was never ending. And you didn't hear much about Hillary. Gee imagine that. All negative Trump, and bambi and thumper when it came to Hillary.

Think about that for a moment, and then get back to me.
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You realize that Trump has profited off of the mantra, "All publicity is good publicity," right? Trump got in the news when he did something outlandish every other week purposefully. He got $3 Billion in free advertising. When Hillary went off script she also got in the news. but it was way less.
 
ModerateGOP said:
You realize that Trump has profited off of the mantra, "All publicity is good publicity," right? Trump got in the news when he did something outlandish every other week purposefully. He got $3 Billion in free advertising. When Hillary went off script she also got in the news. but it was way less.
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That's the lefts wound to ponder. He got $3 billion in outrageous fabricated negative news designed to destroy him. That's bias, that deceit and fraud is called rigging an election.

When are people going to get that the effort backfired. The voters saw the deceit and lies being created, and voted accordingly. They saw how corrupt and one sided the MSM was, and pushed back against the effort to rig the election.

Hillary got, for all intent and purposes, and glowing free pass.

There is no rational way to view the effort and not conclude there was an effort to rig the election in Hillary's favor. Even the DNC was proved to be in on it.
 
ocean515 said:
That's the lefts wound to ponder. He got $3 billion in outrageous fabricated negative news designed to destroy him. That's bias, that deceit and fraud is called rigging an election.

When are people going to get that the effort backfired. The voters saw the deceit and lies being created, and voted accordingly. They saw how corrupt and one sided the MSM was, and pushed back against the effort to rig the election.

Hillary got, for all intent and purposes, and glowing free pass.

There is no rational way to view the effort and not conclude there was an effort to rig the election in Hillary's favor. Even the DNC was proved to be in on it.
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How is the MSM corrupt and how did they rig the election? Just saying they did does not adequately answer my question whatsoever
 
ModerateGOP said:
How is the MSM corrupt and how did they rig the election? Just saying they did does not adequately answer my question whatsoever
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So obtuse is going to be the order of your day. I just explained it.

Not joining you on this. You guys have got to come up with some different strategy.

This old one you're using is so transparent my blind neighbor could see through it.
 
ocean515 said:
So obtuse is going to be the order of your day. I just explained it.

Not joining you on this. You guys have got to come up with some different strategy.

This old one you're using is so transparent my blind neighbor could see through it.
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You didn't explain it you just keep saying "it's rigged!" in various ways. :lamo
 
ModerateGOP said:
How is the MSM corrupt and how did they rig the election? Just saying they did does not adequately answer my question whatsoever
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Lulz! How could the MSM, who were caught blatantly working with the DNC to cheating during the primaries and the general election possibly rig an election you ask? How could the the MSM, who were so blatantly in the tank for Hillary this campaign season that the NYT publicly apologized for their farce of coverage this year, rig an election you ask?
 
reinoe said:
Lulz! How could the MSM, who were caught blatantly working with the DNC to cheating during the primaries and the general election possibly rig an election you ask? How could the the MSM, who were so blatantly in the tank for Hillary this campaign season that the NYT publicly apologized for their farce of coverage this year, rig an election you ask?
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Yes please explain. In those three lines of text I'm sure you could have.
 
ModerateGOP said:
You didn't explain it you just keep saying "it's rigged!" in various ways. :lamo
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Why don't you explain why the media made up so many lies about Trump. What was their objective? In turn, why did they collude with Hillary's campaign?

Please explain in detail what you think they were trying to do.

I'll look forward to your detailed explanation.
 
ocean515 said:
Why don't you explain why the media made up so many lies about Trump. What was their objective? In turn, why did they collude with Hillary's campaign?

Please explain in detail what you think they were trying to do.

I'll look forward to your detailed explanation.
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What lies about Trump did they make up?
 
ModerateGOP said:
What lies about Trump did they make up?
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LOL

Why do you think the NYT wrote an op-ed from the editorial board saying they are going to try to be more truthful in the future?

Why do you think so many experts have decried the MSM bias and actions during this last election cycle?

So, now, with that out of the way, please provide the detailed explanation of why the MSM conducted themselves the way they did. What was their objective?
 
X Factor said:
Seeing some funny stuff along these lines on both sides. Some lefties are actually now musing that it's possible after blasting Trump for suggesting it could happen while some righties are defending the election results and scoffing at even the possibility of fraud. So, where are you on this?
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Tampered with? Hugely. Rigged in the more rigid sense of the word, i.e. ballot box stuffing? No, I'm not seeing evidence of that. A centrally focused effort to rig an election is extraordinarily difficult. That's why it's up to local municipalities to pass laws that knowingly target traditionally Democratic voters, such as shortening early voting, making college students only be able to vote in their home states and creating voter id laws.
 
ocean515 said:
LOL

Why do you think the NYT wrote an op-ed from the editorial board saying they are going to try to be more truthful in the future?

Why do you think so many experts have decried the MSM bias and actions during this last election cycle?
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You didn't answer my question. I asked specifically what lies did they make up about trump. I didn't want some vague example from someone's opinion who works at the New York Times that the newspaper may have made mistakes in the past. Something that supposedly happened since I don't see a link attached to your post.

What experts decrided the MSM bias? And what lies did they make up about Trump? I would think someone who is so adamant against the MSM would have lists and lists of examples on hand and ready to prove the BS you are talking about. But we've already established this elsewhere that you don't.
 
ModerateGOP said:
You didn't answer my question. I asked specifically what lies did they make up about trump. I didn't want some vague example from someone's opinion who works at the New York Times that the newspaper may have made mistakes in the past. Something that supposedly happened since I don't see a link attached to your post.

What experts decrided the MSM bias? And what lies did they make up about Trump? I would think someone who is so adamant against the MSM would have lists and lists of examples on hand and ready to prove the BS you are talking about. But we've already established this elsewhere that you don't.
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So once again, we've entered your disingenuous game.

Not playing anymore ModerateGOP. Totally done with it. You'll never engage in an honest discussion. So be it.

See ya.
 
ocean515 said:
So once again, we've entered your disingenuous game.

Not playing anymore ModerateGOP. Totally done with it. You'll never engage in an honest discussion. So be it.

See ya.
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:lamo I asked a question three times. I asked what lies did they make about Trump and you couldn't even provide one example :lamo
 
X Factor said:
I actually agree that voter fraud is often blown out of proportion. I should say though that I also think many of the arguments regarding the supposed extreme hardship of obtaining picture ID is also way overblown, especially since I see no similar concern regarding obtaining a gun, or in any other area of life for that matter.
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Unless that picture ID requires the voter to pay out of pocket. Then it's a poll tax, and completely unconstitutional. End of story.
 
X Factor said:
Seeing some funny stuff along these lines on both sides. Some lefties are actually now musing that it's possible after blasting Trump for suggesting it could happen while some righties are defending the election results and scoffing at even the possibility of fraud. So, where are you on this?
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I find it odd that in the past the Dems have constantly claimed there is no fraud in elections. As an example they are adamantly against voter ID.
 
Born Free said:
I find it odd that in the past the Dems have constantly claimed there is no fraud in elections. As an example they are adamantly against voter ID.
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Dems don't "constantly claim" that there's no fraud at all; they claim only that there's almost no voter fraud.

Which makes sense. Voter fraud is a felony and has almost no payoff. Other groups can, and probably have, tampered with various elections, though.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Unless that picture ID requires the voter to pay out of pocket. Then it's a poll tax, and completely unconstitutional. End of story.
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In Texas, they're free (well, "free" to the folks who get them).
 
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