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Was the election "rigged"?

Was the election "rigged"?

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DifferentDrummr said:
Easy. One person decided to break the law, but a different person decided (independently) not to enforce it.
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Agreed but the person breaking the law already knows the law is not enforced. Take pot for an example.
 
ocean515 said:
Your hyperbole, and those of Hillary and her MSM partners amounted to nothing, did it?

Voters heard Trump, and they knew he didn't call Mexican's rapists, he was speaking of illegal aliens from Mexico, and accurately stated that among them were rapists, etc. It's interesting people are still spewing the lie you wrote.

Further, voters heard Trump, and they knew he didn't push for a ban on all Muslims entering the country, he called for a ban on Muslims entering the country from countries known to harbor Islamic terrorists until the government "could figure out what is going on". Hillary and her corrupt MSM partners turned that approach into the ban all Muslim meme that Hillaryites lap up to this day.

This list could go on and on, and the truth is found in the complete transcripts of Trumps comments, not the out of context dog whistle lies Hillary and her MSM partners thought the public could be manipulated with.

I do agree President Elect is a genius. He made the left look like inept children, and continues to give them opportunities to prove it every day.
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As long as we're clear on who said all that stupid stuff and that the press factually reported on it.
 
truthatallcost said:
How many illegal immigrants are in the U.S.? '11 million.'
How much voter fraud occurs? 'Hardly any.'

The problem with these answers, is that they aren't really answers at all. They're old slogans now that have been rehearsed into our subconscious.

The first mention of '11 million illegals' dates as far back as 2005. Yet we're repeating this 11 year old guesstimate as if it means anything. If I ask you what gas costs, you aren't going to tell me the 2005 price.

The correct answer to the 2 questions at the start of this comment is; we don't know. Maybe the government wants to keep it that way.
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What we do know is that those illegal immigrants are used to allocate House seats and EC votes thus whether they cast ballots or not, since they are counted, they do count.
 
I guess it depends on how you define "rigged." Does "rigged" mean that there was a systemic attempt (either nationwide or statewide in a particular state) to throw the election? Or does "rigged" mean there were at least isolated attempts in certain areas to fudge the results?

FACT: There was mishandling of paper ballots in Broward County which I would categorize as voter fraud.

OPINION: If there was fraud in Broward County, there was probably fraud in multiple other places.

FACT: Illegal aliens voted. This is not to claim that illegal voters threw the election, but illegal immigrants do vote in some quantity.

OPINION: There was voter fraud this year as there has been in every other past election. Whether that rises to the level of a "rigged" system depends on how you define it. Frankly, I would bet that if all voter fraud were somehow identified and negated, Trumps margin of victory would have been greater in terms of the popular vote. (i.e. there would have been fewer votes for Clinton).
 
jet57 said:
As long as we're clear on who said all that stupid stuff and that the press factually reported on it.
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The Hillary and her MSM partners are liars, deceivers. The press wouldn't report a fact related to Trumps statements if their own children's lives depended on it.
 
ocean515 said:
The Hillary and her MSM partners are liars, deceivers. The press wouldn't report a fact related to Trumps statements if their own children's lives depended on it.
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Interesting opinion. Completely ridiculous but interesting in that it's what you really believe to be true.

Did you know that Warner Brothers produced the video of Neal Armstrong walking on the moon on stage 7?
 
jet57 said:
Interesting opinion. Completely ridiculous but interesting in that it's what you really believe to be true.

Did you know that Warner Brothers produced the video of Neal Armstrong walking on the moon on stage 7?
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I've posted the dozens of complete transcripts of Trumps comments to counter the out of context lies and deceit Hillary and her MSM partners engage in.

When Hillary and her MSM partners engage in wholesale deceit and fraud in order to knowingly spread lies and influence an election for President of the United States, I believe they enter the creature level of humanity that would eat it's own to achieve it's objective.

I believe in facts. Apparently you embrace a different standard.
 
ocean515 said:
I've posted the dozens of complete transcripts of Trumps comments to counter the out of context lies and deceit Hillary and her MSM partners engage in.

When Hillary and her MSM partners engage in wholesale deceit and fraud in order to knowingly spread lies and influence an election for President of the United States, I believe they enter the creature level of humanity that would eat it's own to achieve it's objective.

I believe in facts. Apparently you embrace a different standard.
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But Trump DID say all those stupid things that were recorded and reported - right?

Or did Warner Brothers CGI Trumps lips moving and loop in an impersonator's voice?
 
jet57 said:
But Trump DID say all those stupid things that were recorded and reported - right?

Or did Warner Brothers CGI Trumps lips moving and loop in an impersonator's voice?
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I get that complete context means nothing to Hillary and her MSM partners. Obviously her target audience feels the same way.

Did you know these words actually came from Hillary's mouth?

It relates to illegal aliens:

"round them up, put them, I don’t know, in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border.”
 
ocean515 said:
I get that complete context means nothing to Hillary and her MSM partners. Obviously her target audience feels the same way.

Did you know these words actually came from Hillary's mouth?

It relates to illegal aliens:

"round them up, put them, I don’t know, in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border.”
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Nice try. Next time include the entire comment so its context can bee revealed:
"I find it the height of irony that a party that espouses small government would want to unleash a massive law enforcement effort, including perhaps National Guard and others, to go and literally pull people out of their homes and their workplaces, round them up, put them, I don’t know, in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border.”
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Hillary: Please Do Not Try To Out-Trump Trump | The Huffington Post


The lying of you guys on the right never changes.
 
Phoenix said:
Do you really believe that? How ridiculous.
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X Factor said:
Seeing some funny stuff along these lines on both sides. Some lefties are actually now musing that it's possible after blasting Trump for suggesting it could happen while some righties are defending the election results and scoffing at even the possibility of fraud. So, where are you on this?
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I'd be shocked if the election was rigged. Never attribute to malice what can be more easily explained as ignorance.

That said, it does make sense to audit every statewide election by randomly examining 1-2% of the ballots and statistically evaluating every precinct. The idea is to keep it cheap and fast, but be able to detect fraudulent results localized to a handful of precincts statistically and statewide fraud through random sampling. Also, this would help to make the vote counts more accurate. We can't say that every vote counts and be wrong by thousands of votes.
 
jet57 said:
Nice try. Next time include the entire comment so its context can bee revealed:

Hillary: Please Do Not Try To Out-Trump Trump | The Huffington Post


The lying of you guys on the right never changes.
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LOL

Tell you what, why don't you approach your lying, corrupt media and demand they do the same thing with context.

They've played the minions with out of context lies, and deceit since day one. And the minions just lap it up.

The fraud you guys cling to is astonishing.
 
ocean515 said:
LOL

Tell you what, why don't you approach your lying, corrupt media and demand they do the same thing with context.

They've played the minions with out of context lies, and deceit since day one. And the minions just lap it up.

The fraud you guys cling to is astonishing.
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You lied, you didn't get away with it.


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Yes. Totally rigged. Both globalist parties hAd A system in place to stop the will of the voters. In the primary the ones with money could use money in many ways to influence a few delegates to stop the voters. So it's all rigged for the lobbyists and rich they own the media to rigg the system more so. Trump had to fight a bought off rigged system. After he brings the jobs he will then change this corruption. Then prison time for the liberal corrupt
 
Goshin said:
They tried their best... and failed. I regard 1/2 to 2 million of the popular vote for Hillary to be of dubious legitimacy....
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Just like that woman who said "i don't get it, everybody i know voted for Hillary," ?
 
I voted possibly, because we do not possess the means to detect the fraud.
Only a grievous mistake like having more ballots cast, than people are in a voting district, would show up.
 
X Factor said:
Seeing some funny stuff along these lines on both sides. Some lefties are actually now musing that it's possible after blasting Trump for suggesting it could happen while some righties are defending the election results and scoffing at even the possibility of fraud. So, where are you on this?
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Maybe I'm off on this but I always took Trump's statements about elections being rigged not so much as the actual physical process of voting and counting the votes but the two party system that bars competitors from greater participation, the money that's involved, and the media coverage.

In that sense, the system is 100% rigged.
 
The media owned by the rich has the election rigged like a 20 to 1 type of rigging. But the wise at times can over come like this time
 
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