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Republican Voters (Secretly, Really) Want Bigger Government

Did Republican Voters Vote for Bigger Government?


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Donald trump is not a real republican. Just putting that out there. He is less right and more authoritarian.


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Trump is a non-PC opportune Republican. He says what they think. Like any politician, he made promises he can't keep. Only Trump made promises greater than ever before that, once elected, he started to backpedal before he even took office. Or did he? Trump gives you three choices behind the curtains, then, after you choose, moves what's behind the curtain you chose as he see's fit. That's Trumpese.
 
Trump is a non-PC opportune Republican. He says what they think. Like any politician, he made promises he can't keep. Only Trump made promises greater than ever before that, once elected, he started to backpedal before he even took office. Or did he? Trump gives you three choices behind the curtains, then, after you choose, moves what's behind the curtain you chose as he see's fit. That's Trumpese.

Trump made promises greater than ever before? Bruh. Have you ever listened to a presidential campaign promises?


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Trump made promises greater than ever before? Bruh. Have you ever listened to a presidential campaign promises?


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You mean like sending 30 million undocumented immigrants back to where they came from (an ironclad promise he's already backed down from)? Or building a wall, not a fence, across the entire border with Mexico, and have Mexico pay for it (an ironclad promise he's already backed down from)? Or ban Muslims from entry to the US, because of their religion (an ironclad promise he's already backed down from)? Or have Hillary prosecuted (an ironclad promise he's already backed down from)? Can you name promises by other Presidential candidates that can top that short list, and that were broken?
 
Small government is merely a buzzword that has been so overused it has become cliche. It is supposed to appeal to the angry working poor who imagine all government workers as loafers or incompetent, or far right ideologues who think taxes are theft, and community support is for suckers. It is an attempt to buy votes from segments of the electorate that are ill informed, or feel dysinfranchised and left behind, or want as little community contact as possible. It has been used so many times now it is often parroted unthinkingly by many, accepted with no introspection or investigation.

In fact the far right is enthusiastic about government, at least those functions that benefit them, and they are disdainful of those functions that are of no use to them. That is why items like national defense (and its resulting contracts), policing, and subsidies to business are strongly supported, and medical care, education, pensions, and employment programs are not.

Spin doctors have also wedded the notion of small government with the American mythology of the frontier, the steely eyed pioneer who needed nothing, as he was self-sufficient in all ways. It's an ad man's dream, a dodgy political proposition that will be disastrous for most, but wrapped up in images of Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett, and playing on the fears and ill founded suspicions of a browbeaten and largely uneducated working class.

And spin, as the last election shows, works.

People wonder why our nation's roads, bridges and airports are in such disrepair. IMO, it stems from the low/no federal taxes mentality that comes from Conservatism.

Back in the days of Vanderbilt and Rockefeller when self-made men became giants of capitalism, they finances many of their own transportation routes from roads to railways, bridges to subway tunnels. It, therefore, made sense to leave the maintenance and upkeep to these rich fat cats since the price of admission/access to these thoroughfares helped defray repair cost. But since many of our highways are federally owned and many states depend on federal funding to maintain their state-highways, it makes sense that federal tax dollars should go towards their upkeep today. Even Adam Smith, the architect of Conservative principles (even though he was a liberal), firmly believed that taxes should go towards maintaining public roads, tunnels and bridges. It's funny though because each time Pres. Obama sought funding for "infrastructure projects", he was denied at every turn. But now that Trump is the President-elect, notice how those same deniers and detractors are now eager to put money behind repairing our international airports and other infrastructure projects. Just goes to show how one political party will swear they're such patriots but don't have a problem watching THEIR country crumble around them if it means they'd cede power to the opposing party.
 
Trump is a doer... you are a wonderer...

But a doer of what though? What exactly has Donald J. Trump done on a national scale that convinces you that he can solve the nation's problems?

You see, as I listen to him speak and the policies he'd impose it's very clear to me that Trump will sign massive spending/appropriations bills, the bulk, of which, will be public/private partnerships, i.e., defense contracts. I'm willing to bet very few of the manufacturing plants the get built once Trump goes into office will be strictly on the private sector's nickle. It'll be your tax dollars (i.e., corporate subsidies) that pay for it, in whole or in part.
 
Donald trump is not a real republican. Just putting that out there. He is less right and more authoritarian.


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And Republicans elected him.
 
A small government can make bad economic policy.

As far as big government goes, it wasn't the Republicans that used government agencies to kill jobs and go after political opponents. It wasn't the Republicans who gave us Obamacare, cash for clunkers, Obamaphones and Obamacablen then demanded that taxes be raised to pay for it. It hasn't been the Republicans who have been working their asses off to ban, or greatly restrict gun ownership. Except for gay marriage, there isn't a single Liberal idea that doesn't take away our liberties, in part, or whole.

But that's not bigger government, though. That's redistributing cash inflows (taxes...or as conservatism likes to call it "wealth"). BIG government IMO, means either one of two things:

1) more government agencies (i.e., the Department of Homeland Security); or,

2) increasing the size and/or scope of government agencies or their authority.

Now, on the authority issue, people might equate that to "more 'intrusive' regulations", but sometimes when the private sector can't (or won't) but checks upon themselves, government has to step in and do it for them. That was the consequence of breaking up Glass-Stegall and letting commercial/investment banks, mortgage companies and insurance firms run amok with OPM (Other People's Money). And when their house of cards fell and "corporate American" couldn't fix itself, government WAS the only entity that could step in and repair the damage. But doing so came at a price. Unfortunately, most people simple do not understand clearly enough exactly what happened, how it happened and what it took to get things back in order.
 
the first order of business for the new attorney general is to lock up the criminal Clinton.

It's odd.

Your profile claims you are "Libertarian - Right", but you are advocating for methods almost exclusively employed by totalitarian governments with socialist economies: the jailing of political opponents. But what you advocate for is even worse. You want it done after being promised in advance and by an "AG." What about the judge? What about the jury? What about the due process right to meaningful review of this promised conviction?

Throw it all out because you decided she's guilty? Throw it all out despite your being completely and utterly unable to disprove the FBI's statement that it has never prosecuted someone in similar circumstances as hers? That the last 5 SoS's were just as negligent with confidential/classified information?





That's the opposite of Libertarian.

That's the opposite of American.

That is despicable.
 
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