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Will Trump Demolish Obamacare?

Will Trump get rid of Obamacare?

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countryboy said:
And you support that? What if someone simply doesn't have the money?
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Continue on, dear reader.

(e) Exemptions
No penalty shall be imposed under subsection (a) with respect to—
(1) Individuals who cannot afford coverage
(A) In general
Any applicable individual for any month if the applicable individual’s required contribution (determined on an annual basis) for coverage for the month exceeds 8 percent of such individual’s household income for the taxable year described in section 1412(b)(1)(B) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. For purposes of applying this subparagraph, the taxpayer’s household income shall be increased by any exclusion from gross income for any portion of the required contribution made through a salary reduction arrangement.
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Kal'Stang said:
There is a difference between EBT/taxes and directly having to pay a private company. There's also a difference from regulating hospitals healthcare service and that of demanding that individuals pay private companies for a service that they may not even want.

You see, I'd have no problem if the government expanded Medicare to include every single person in this country and paid it through taxes. I don't object to a UHC or anything like that. I just object to the government trying to force people to buy a product from a private company.
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Medicare is funded by a flat rate payroll tax - is that really a good way to go for UHC?
 
Greenbeard said:
What if a Medicare-like product were available in the market and could be chosen by the consumer (who would also be free to choose a private plan if he liked)?
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IIRC I heard that Canada is moving towards or already has something like this. Having a UHC while allowing private insurers to do their thing. I'd have no problem with that. So long as no one was forced to pay a private insurer. I can see the benefits of such.
 
Greenbeard said:
Continue on, dear reader.
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What then, pray tell, is Obamacare architect, Jonathan Herr Gruber, referring to when he says this?
GRUBER: Look, once again, there's no sense of oh it just has to be fixed. The law is working as designed; however, it could work better, and I think probably the most important thing experts would agree on is that we need a larger mandate penalty. We have individuals who are essentially free riding on the system. They're essentially waiting until they get sick and then getting health insurance. The whole idea of this plan which was pioneered in Massachusetts was that the individual mandate penalty would bring those people into the system and have them participate. The penalty right now is probably too low and that's something ideally we would fix.
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countryboy said:
And you support this?
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No, the idea for improving the risk pools that's most appealing to me at the moment is a GOP idea: widen the age bands from 3:1 to 5:1. Let the young pay less and the older pay more.
 
Greenbeard said:
No, the idea for improving the risk pools that's most appealing to me at the moment is a GOP idea: widen the age bands from 3:1 to 5:1. Let the young pay less and the older pay more.
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GOP idea? Source?
 
PoS said:
Donald says he will dismantle all of Obama's achievements, especially Obamacare. Do you think he will do it?
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Not as simple as it seems..... there is a "replace" element to this, which is very complex.

...in fact, this is the first of most promises that Trump has made that are far more complex, politically and practically, then he has led his supports to believe... like infrastructure.

People that voted for Trump for policy reasons are going to be very disappointed.
 
countryboy said:
GOP idea? Source?
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Pretty much every GOP proposal. Including the one released by Paul Ryan in June.

Another way to strengthen the health care market is to fix the age-rating ratio, which is used to adjust premium amounts according to an individual’s age. One way to do this is by limiting the cost of an older individual’s plan to no more than five times what a younger person pays in premiums. Most states were using this five-to-one ratio before 2010. However, Obamacare now mandates a three-to-one ratio — an unrealistic regulation — that is leading to insurance pools with older, less healthy individuals, while driving younger and healthier Americans from the insurance market. The ill-advised three-to-one policy is leading to artificially higher premiums for millions of Americans, especially younger and healthier patients.
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I'm inclined to agree that we've been protecting older folks too much at the expensive of the young. Let them pay more. Let the young pay less.
 
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