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Are you a Statist or an Anarchist?

Are you a Statist or an Anarchist?

  • Statist

    Votes: 8 72.7%

  • Anarchist

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Total voters
    11
Viking11

Viking11

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Statist - you believe that the use and threat of violence and coercion is necessary to maintain a civilized society.

Anarchist - you believe that the use and threat of violence and coercion is NOT necessary to maintain a civilized society.

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https://mises.org/library/spontaneous-order-capitalist-case-stateless-society
 
That is nothing more than dishonest propaganda. Which makes me think that you are not anymore honest than the propaganda that you are pedaling.
 
Yet another trollbait propaganda poll by Viking.
 
Anarchists are Idiots that think people will all just get along and no need to make sure society has any set rules, we can trust each other to do good, right..... Not ever going to happen because it cannot work, mankind himself says it will not work.
 
Casper said:
Anarchists are Idiots that think people will all just get along and no need to make sure society has any set rules, we can trust each other to do good, right..... Not ever going to happen because it cannot work, mankind himself says it will not work.
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Facepalm.
 
If the only two choices are "Statism or Anarchy" then I am a Statist.

I believe in small government rather than a general state of anarchy, because the latter option is simply a survival of the fittest - smartest/strongest takes all situation.

That only serves the strongest, at least until someone smarter/stronger comes along.

Pretending there are "rules" to Anarchy is disingenuous...because in a state of Anarchy the only one who can enforce those rules is you.
 
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Statist.

However, your definition of statist is hilariously dishonest.

Also, anarcho-capitalism is barbaric filth and not even real anarchism.

Casper said:
Anarchists are Idiots that think people will all just get along and no need to make sure society has any set rules, we can trust each other to do good, right..... Not ever going to happen because it cannot work, mankind himself says it will not work.
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That's not what anarchism is.
 
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Casper said:
Anarchists are Idiots that think people will all just get along and no need to make sure society has any set rules, we can trust each other to do good, right..... Not ever going to happen because it cannot work, mankind himself says it will not work.
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If you can't trust people, then why would you want to give certain people power over you?
 
foadi said:
If you can't trust people, then why would you want to give certain people power over you?
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Bingo. The idea for the state is that people are untrustworthy and will kill and or steal from you as they please. Or put in other way, people are violent assholes that want to kill and rob everyone else. To solve this rather serious problem people support a state run by..well, ummmm...people, that make the rules for all of society and enforce these rules with ahhh...violence. This state has the power to kidnap, enslave, steal, and kill anyone that disobeys them. Oh, and this state also has the power to steal just to operate, or at least make the excuse that they need to steal to operate anyway. I wonder, isn't that taking the short cut to where statists say anarchism will lead?
 
Viking11 said:
What's so barbaric about it?
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I imagine you will get a few different answers to that. Just review the arguments against capitalism and apply them here.
 
Viking11 said:
What's so barbaric about it?
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Removing the state from between corporate greed and the everyman, are you serious? If you're not rich, which I doubt you are (but I could be wrong), you're in for a **** time.

Capitalism is great, but "anarcho-"capitalism is just as evil as fascism, stalinism, Leninism, etc.

Noam Chomsky, a fella I usually can't stand, handled this lunacy pretty well some time back.
 
Sherman123 said:
I think the state is one of greatest achievements of civilization.
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Then keep bowing down to lick your masters' boots. They'll enjoy it.
 
Brewdog said:
Then keep bowing down to lick your masters' boots. They'll enjoy it.
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I pay my taxes cognizant of the achievements of society stretching back to ancient Sumer. I may not like a particular administration, but I'd never want to tear down 'the system'. Sorry. I also fundamentally reject the non-aggression principle as childish nonsense.
 
Sherman123 said:
I pay my taxes cognizant of the achievements of society stretching back to ancient Sumer. I may not like a particular administration, but I'd never want to tear down 'the system'. Sorry. I also fundamentally reject the non-aggression principle as childish nonsense.
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So the principle of our government using aggression and violence is your hallmark.

Got it. You're very grown up to use other people's kids lives to bomb hospitals and to instigate terrorist attacks upon our homeland. I'm just childish to want us to mind our own business.
 
Brewdog said:
So the principle of our government using aggression and violence is your hallmark.

Got it. You're very grown up to use other people's kids lives to bomb hospitals and to instigate terrorist attacks upon our homeland. I'm just childish to want us to mind our own business.
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Of course. I'm perfectly amenable to using coercion to ensure that society coheres and follows certain rules. Yes, it is childish to think you can be an island unto yourself completely independent of all strictures and laws.
 
Sherman123 said:
Of course. I'm perfectly amenable to using coercion to ensure that society coheres and follows certain rules. Yes, it is childish to think you can be an island unto yourself completely independent of all strictures and laws.
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Thanks for ISIS. The entire world appreciates your ignorant meddling. And that's what created this mess, didn't it? People like you that can't see past your nose because you have no education or common sense. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP USA USA USA!

It's cowardly to keep sending in someone else's boys to die and lose their legs because you think it's fashionable.

And you think libertarians are crazy.
 
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