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Is men's reaction to Bahar Mustafa's comments toxic or healthy masculinity?

Men's reaction to Bahar Mustafa's comments is

  • Toxic Masculinity

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Healthy Masculinity

    Votes: 6 85.7%
  • Total voters
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In the Age of Political Correctness anyone writing an offensive satire about women or an ethnic group should be prepared for severe consequences. When Roosh V wrote a very offensive satire about rape, he was blasted by thousands of media outlets. He got tens of thousands of death, rape, castration threats. Other people have been blacklisted for offensive speech.

Until recently any offensive speech against men was acceptable. But when Ms Bahar Mustafa held a diversity event banning men and tweeted #KillAllWhiteMen she was also attacked:

-- A petition to expel Ms. Bahar Mustafa from Goldsmiths University got 27,306 signatures

-- Many men have posted rude things: "One story about the controversy drew upward of 2,500 comments on Reddit before moderators locked the thread" since the comments are unrepeatable

-- YouTube contains 1530 videos about Ms. Bahar Mustafa -- mostly negative

-- Ms. Bahar Mustafa was briefly arrested

In your opinion, is the reaction to offense by many men constitute toxic or healthy masculinity?
 
I don't know, but I think the reaction that Bahar Mustafa received for her #KillAllMen tweet was completely justified.

What an absolutely retarded thing to say.

Same thing goes for Roosh V and his stupid "legalize rape" comments, although he got assaulted for that, which was wrong.
 
TheGoverness said:
I don't know, but I think the reaction that Bahar Mustafa received for her #KillAllMen tweet was completely justified.

What an absolutely retarded thing to say.

Same thing goes for Roosh V and his stupid "legalize rape" comments, although he got assaulted for that, which was wrong.
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Thanks. Definitely offending large groups of people is a very bad way to earn popularity.
 
SCitizen said:
In the Age of Political Correctness anyone writing an offensive satire about women or an ethnic group should be prepared for severe consequences. When Roosh V wrote a very offensive satire about rape, he was blasted by thousands of media outlets. He got tens of thousands of death, rape, castration threats. Other people have been blacklisted for offensive speech.

Until recently any offensive speech against men was acceptable. But when Ms Bahar Mustafa held a diversity event banning men and tweeted #KillAllWhiteMen she was also attacked:

-- A petition to expel Ms. Bahar Mustafa from Goldsmiths University got 27,306 signatures

-- Many men have posted rude things: "One story about the controversy drew upward of 2,500 comments on Reddit before moderators locked the thread" since the comments are unrepeatable

-- YouTube contains 1530 videos about Ms. Bahar Mustafa -- mostly negative

-- Ms. Bahar Mustafa was briefly arrested

In your opinion, is the reaction to offense by many men constitute toxic or healthy masculinity?
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In any event, the political correctness movement has it wrong to the point of weakening democracy.
 
I'm sick of the toxic v. healthy masculinity rhetoric. It's just a thinly veiled attempted to shame men into changing.
 
SCitizen said:
Thanks. Definitely offending large groups of people is a very bad way to earn popularity.
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Well, if you want change a good tactic is shaming your opponents. It's why the left and every rights movement comes up with labels to attach to the opposition. The problem with this tactic is that it can backfire and cause resentment and just general bad blood between the groups. It's one reason why feminism is basically burning alive today.
 
TheGoverness said:
I don't know, but I think the reaction that Bahar Mustafa received for her #KillAllMen tweet was completely justified.

What an absolutely retarded thing to say.

Same thing goes for Roosh V and his stupid "legalize rape" comments, although he got assaulted for that, which was wrong.
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The woman in question only poured beer(I think) on his head. What was more serious was women threatening to beat him up and countries threatening to arrest him if he entered their country. Then on top of that they did everything in their power to stop him from speaking at his meetings.
 
joG said:
In any event, the political correctness movement has it wrong to the point of weakening democracy.
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In an ideal society, there would be no Political Correctness. The second best choice is equally applying Political Correctness to all groups.
 
Henrin said:
The woman in question only poured beer(I think) on his head. What was more serious was women threatening to beat him up and countries threatening to arrest him if he entered their country. Then on top of that they did everything in their power to stop him from speaking at his meetings.
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There were thousands of threats against him all over the Internet like here. He is indeed very offensive. He is not a Mens Rights Activist.

So I would say reaction to Ms. Bahar Mustafa is justifiable.
 
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SCitizen said:
In an ideal society, there would be no Political Correctness. The second best choice is equally applying Political Correctness to all groups.
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Then you have people beating around bushes and nobody can be sure of what was meant. That is anti-democracy.
 
The reaction has nothing to do with masculinity, toxic or healthy. It's an instinctive reaction to someone advocating mass murder of people.
 
Toxic. The stronger of the sexes should have ignored something so stupid.
 
d0gbreath said:
Toxic. The stronger of the sexes should have ignored something so stupid.
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So because men are the stronger sex they should ignore sexism from women?
 
d0gbreath said:
Yes.

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I think men saying nothing of female sexism in the past was fine, but today and going forward in a world where women are quickly taking power in all areas of life it is extremely unwise.
 
Henrin said:
I think men saying nothing of female sexism in the past was fine, but today and going forward in a world where women are quickly taking power in all areas of life it is extremely unwise.
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You got this?
 
Gaztopian said:
The reaction has nothing to do with masculinity, toxic or healthy. It's an instinctive reaction to someone advocating mass murder of people.
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Definitely as I have said in the past Blaming all men for crimes of some is evil. Advocating murder of innocent people is evil. Not a joke but evil.
 
d0gbreath said:
Toxic. The stronger of the sexes should have ignored something so stupid.
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Many people, mostly men believe that in some ways men should be held to higher moral standers then women. I do not think this is a good idea in the Age of Equality.
 
If feminism stands for gender equality, please count me in, but all decent humans should have contempt for hateful vermin, that hates half of Humankind.
 
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SCitizen said:
In the Age of Political Correctness anyone writing an offensive satire about women or an ethnic group should be prepared for severe consequences. When Roosh V wrote a very offensive satire about rape, he was blasted by thousands of media outlets. He got tens of thousands of death, rape, castration threats. Other people have been blacklisted for offensive speech.

Until recently any offensive speech against men was acceptable. But when Ms Bahar Mustafa held a diversity event banning men and tweeted #KillAllWhiteMen she was also attacked:

-- A petition to expel Ms. Bahar Mustafa from Goldsmiths University got 27,306 signatures

-- Many men have posted rude things: "One story about the controversy drew upward of 2,500 comments on Reddit before moderators locked the thread" since the comments are unrepeatable

-- YouTube contains 1530 videos about Ms. Bahar Mustafa -- mostly negative

-- Ms. Bahar Mustafa was briefly arrested

In your opinion, is the reaction to offense by many men constitute toxic or healthy masculinity?
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What does "masculinity" have to do with it one way or the other? The plain fact of the matter is that this hard-Left feminist whack-a-doodle was using pretty blatant and inflammatory hate speech against a demographic she happens to dislike, and she got called out on it.

If anything, it would appear to be her personal ideology, and the extremes of ideation to which she has allowed it to drive her actions, which are "toxic."
 
It is not possible to be serious about diversity while banning the participation of 49% of the people.

Objecting to the charade is healthy.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Yeesh... How in the Hell did that tripe even get published?
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Even some prominent newspapers publish such stuff -- since the volume of protests about it has been quite weak. Until there was enough protest -- before late 1960s, openly racist articles were published in respectable newspapers as well.
 
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