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What are some ways to reduce police shootings of unarmed people of color?

What should be done to increase police accountability

  • Mandatory diversity and tolerance training

    Votes: 14 50.0%

  • Conflict deescalation classes

    Votes: 16 57.1%

  • Remove white cops from black neighborhoods

    Votes: 5 17.9%

  • More civilian complaint review boards

    Votes: 13 46.4%

  • Remove police firearms: require use of tasers or pepper spray

    Votes: 3 10.7%

  • Mandatory body cameras

    Votes: 23 82.1%
  • Total voters
    28
Casper said:
Or pull all police out of the hoods and leave them to live in peace ................:lamo
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LOL-ever see ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK?
 
Ganapathy said:
Look, I'm not a big fan of Pol Pot. He went overboard, and in the end, he could have gone about implementing the rule of the people in MUCH better ways. But remember, this was the era of U.S aggression in Vietnam, the My Lai massacre, and the massacre of dissidents by the South Vietnamese government. Pol Pot saw this and, rightfully so, did everything he could think of to avoid Cambodia from suffering the same fate. He had good intentions, but carried out his ideas somewhat poorly.
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WTF? :roll:
 
Ganapathy said:
Look, I'm not a big fan of Pol Pot. He went overboard, and in the end, he could have gone about implementing the rule of the people in MUCH better ways. But remember, this was the era of U.S aggression in Vietnam, the My Lai massacre, and the massacre of dissidents by the South Vietnamese government. Pol Pot saw this and, rightfully so, did everything he could think of to avoid Cambodia from suffering the same fate. He had good intentions, but carried out his ideas somewhat poorly.
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He killed more then a million people.

Even the North Vietnamese couldn't stomach what he was doing.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hmmm,

How about people learning how to deal with a police encounter?

1. Remain calm,

2. Keep your hands visible and away from your body,

3. Keep your mouth shut. (Identify yourself when asked, then don't volunteer information, don't argue, don't respond to conversation attempts other than to ask if you a free to go).

4. Don't consent to searches, but be polite when refusing.

5. Don't resist.

6. Don't throw attitude.

7. If you are arrested, immediately ask to speak to an attorney and then say nothing more until you see an attorney.
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excellent advice counselor. :agree:applaud
 
TurtleDude said:
you sound like a woman who used to be (in)famous in Cincinnati. Marge Schott-former owner of the Reds

she noted "Hitler was good at first but he just went too far"
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Pol Pot overthrew an absolute monarchy and opposed U.S imperialism. He just went overboard in his campaign against reactionary terrorists.

Hitler, on the other hand, overthrew a democracy and one of his main goals was killing an entire race of people just for the hell of it.

There is no comparison at all.
 
Ganapathy said:
Pol Pot overthrew an absolute monarchy and opposed U.S imperialism. He just went overboard in his campaign against reactionary terrorists.

Hitler, on the other hand, overthrew a democracy and one of his main goals was killing an entire race of people just for the hell of it.

There is no comparison at all.
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that's like saying brain cancer is better than pancreatic cancer
 
Tigerace117 said:
He killed more then a million people.

Even the North Vietnamese couldn't stomach what he was doing.
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Pol Pot went overboard, I already agreed with that. I just think that his intentions were nothing but good, and his overthrow of an absolute monarchy was one of Cambodia's greatest achievements.
 
Ganapathy said:
Pol Pot went overboard, I already agreed with that. I just think that his intentions were nothing but good, and his overthrow of an absolute monarchy was one of Cambodia's greatest achievements.
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Pol Pot doesn't belong on a list of "greatest achievements" period.
 
Ganapathy said:
Mao never ordered anybody shot besides for murderers and rapists. In fact, he started the 100 flowers campaign in 1957 to ENCOURAGE free and open debate. https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-5/anti-washington/part-2c.htm
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Uh.

The 100 Flowers Campaign was used to discover and sort out anyone who held Heterodox beliefs. They were subsequently purged in the Anti-Rightist campaign. Mao subsequently boasted: "What’s so unusual about Emperor Shih Huang of the China Dynasty? He had buried alive 460 scholars only, but we have buried alive 46,000 scholars."

Furthermore, between the famines of the "Great Leap Nowhere", the Purges, and the fury, chaos, and bloodbath of the Cultural Revolution, Mao was responsible for killing (estimates vary) somewhere between 45 and 65 million people.
 
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Mandatory body cams on 24/7 while on duty, tamper-proof, and teeth in the regulations that won't allow them to be circumvented.

I'd call that a good start.
 
I've got a novel idea! Put all the BAD ones in jail(and don't be a rock-ape and demand that I define "bad")and do remedial training on all the ones that are left. Teach them about personal responsibility, family, parenthood, community, duty, honor, and country. Teach them RESPECT!

When I was growing up, I knew plenty of black kids. They knew they were black. WE knew we were white. It was easy, all we had to do was look at each other's skin.

Trust me when I tell you this:young black men are different now than they were then. No chicken and egg BS. No Excuses! They are different. Why? Bacause they have not had the benefit of a nuclear family and a well defined indoctrination of the 7 other items I mentioned above. Anybody here who knows anything at all knows that when a young man does not have fences or boundaries, he can not flourish. A young man can not teach himself.

Giving welfare to unwed mothers to get political clout has destroyed 2, maybe 3 complete generations of young black American males. Acting like all of these problems were caused by policemen is ludicrous in the extreme and demands that you deny any form of reality. Running to the protection of some biased Oz equals failure. Cops are not the problem. Righting the wrongs of society is the only solution.
 
Pretty simple answer --- for those stopped by cops whatever color they are --- when cops pull you over, don't have an attitude, be calm and polite, show respect (even if you don't feel it) -- remember --- that policeman encounters bad people everyday who want to kill him. Don't give him any reason to think you're one of them.

For the cops -- don't freak out just because the person is black, Latino or looks different than you. Keep your eyes open and your mind clear. Remember that there are good people out there -- don't let paranoia take over.

For the record -- I believe 99% of the problem would be solved by the first answer.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Hmmm,

How about people learning how to deal with a police encounter?


1. Remain calm,

2. Keep your hands visible and away from your body,

3. Keep your mouth shut. (Identify yourself when asked, then don't volunteer information, don't argue, don't respond to conversation attempts other than to ask if you a free to go).

4. Don't consent to searches, but be polite when refusing.

5. Don't resist.

6. Don't throw attitude.

7. If you are arrested, immediately ask to speak to an attorney and then say nothing more until you see an attorney.
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Fantastic, and excellent advice.

This guy handles it perfectly, IMHO... :lol:


 
Ganapathy said:
The poll here allows you to choose more than one answer, since there is no one "right answer." However, most people agree that the level of police brutality in this country, especially towards people of color, in unacceptable, and something needs to be done about it.
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People should stop being hyperbolic, reactionary asshats.
This whole situation is overblown bull****, end of story.
 
Ganapathy said:
The poll here allows you to choose more than one answer, since there is no one "right answer." However, most people agree that the level of police brutality in this country, especially towards people of color, in unacceptable, and something needs to be done about it.
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Here is the answer to the thread title.
 
It's very easy. Teach black people not to commit crimes, to respect the law and law enforcement. The overwhelming majority of blacks that get shot do so because they are resisting arrest, have illegal weapons and are wanted for crimes. Eliminate that and they'd still be alive today.

But of course, we can't actually blame the people responsible, can we?
 
More civilian review boards needs to be changed to more review boards.

Our Police are not military. They need to stop calling us civilians, when they are civilians too.

It gives them a sense of being military soldiers.

We all know what soldiers do. They kill the enemy.
 
 
Ganapathy said:
The poll here allows you to choose more than one answer, since there is no one "right answer." However, most people agree that the level of police brutality in this country, especially towards people of color, in unacceptable, and something needs to be done about it.
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You left off the following

"DON'T RESIST ARREST/DETENTION"

"DON'T REACH INTO WAISTBAND"

There are more.
 
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