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brexit and the metric system

would britain dump metric following a brexit

  • No

    Votes: 16 69.6%

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • They may go dual standard

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • They are going to rejoin the eu

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • Yes I want my food in pounds and my fat butt measures in stones

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    23
Carjosse said:
That is the same with Celsius, you learn to know what each feels like. For a lot of people 25 is comfortable but not of me. Why do you need such a big scale with numbers that mean nothing?
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It's what we know.
Why change something for 300 million people, to satisfy the needs of what is likely less than 1 million, who can convert for their work.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
It's what we know.
Why change something for 300 million people, to satisfy the needs of what is likely less than 1 million, who can convert for their work.
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You mean the 6.7 billion people who use it. Bring the US in line with the rest of the world.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Yea but they don't live here, only some of those 6.7 come here.
It's completely unnecessary.

I don't go to France and ask them to change.
Nor would I do that of anyone else.
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Because France is in line with the rest of the world. The US is not.
 
Carjosse said:
Because France is in line with the rest of the world. The US is not.
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Why does everything have to be uniform?
Should I expect everyone else to learn English, because I think it more practical?

The rest of the world is not entitled to have us use the same measurement system.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Why does everything have to be uniform?
Should I expect everyone else to learn English, because I think it more practical?

The rest of the world is not entitled to have us use the same measurement system.
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Do you not understand the concept of standards especially in international trade?
 
Carjosse said:
Do you not understand the concept of standards especially in international trade?
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Sure I do.
It's seems to be working just fine, as is.

I don't know why there's all this stink.
If a customer outside the US wants something in metric, we'll make it in metric.
If we as a customer, want it in Imperial, they'll make it in Imperial.

Everyone is happy.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Sure I do.
It's seems to be working just fine, as is.

I don't know why there's all this stink.
If a customer outside the US wants something in metric, we'll make it in metric.
If we as a customer, want it in Imperial, they'll make it in Imperial.

Everyone is happy.
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Or you could just only produce it in metric and waste no time or money.
 
Carjosse said:
Or you could just only produce it in metric and waste no time or money.
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There would be a huge amount of time and money.
Not just that but mistakes, from unfamiliar people converting here, that really won't be accustomed.

It's just rather...I don't know, ethnocentric (or something like that) to think everyone else, should do things as you do.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
There would be a huge amount of time and money.
Not just that but mistakes, from unfamiliar people converting here, that really won't be accustomed.

It's just rather...I don't know, ethnocentric (or something like that) to think everyone else, should do things as you do.
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It is also a one-time cost unlike converting things which are recurring costs. In the long run money will be saved. The US is in the extreme minority here and this is not cultural suppression this is trade standardization.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Why does everything have to be uniform?
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To avoid this kind of ****

CNN - Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter - September 30, 1999

125 million dollars in 1999.. that is 180 million in todays dollars.

There is absolutely no reason not to use metric.. only arrogance and nationalism prevent the US from moving over to something that is clearly superior. Brits have done it but still cling to their old ... wait guess that is where the Americans got it from..
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Why does everything have to be uniform?
Should I expect everyone else to learn English, because I think it more practical?

The rest of the world is not entitled to have us use the same measurement system.
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Because the Communists want everything to be the same, that's why. Same clothes, same foods, same pay, same education, same time of death. It makes things so much easier to control...with an iron hand. Remember the Gulags? And Tiananmen Square?

We don't need them nearly as badly as they need us. Let them watch their own TV sets and listen to their own stereos. Let them use their own oil and let them die of their own diseases. Let them live in their own concrete high-rise monoliths and smoke their own unfiltered cigarettes, and pollute their own atmospheres.

If they are so dissatisfied with us, let them take their business elsewhere.

The Brits are actively refuting globalism. By the look of the DJIA today, we are too.
 
Carjosse said:
Or you could just only produce it in metric and waste no time or money.
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Au contraire. Who's gonna pay for the retooling? I'm not. I'm pretty happy using Imperial measurements, and I won't be retooling to satisfy someone else. Even the name is classier than "metric" - sounds like some kind of bowel obstruction.
 
humbolt said:
Au contraire. Who's gonna pay for the retooling? I'm not. I'm pretty happy using Imperial measurements, and I won't be retooling to satisfy someone else. Even the name is classier than "metric" - sounds like some kind of bowel obstruction.
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Again one-time cost, whereas conversion is a continuous recurring cost. In the long-run switching to metric is better.
 
Carjosse said:
Again one-time cost, whereas conversion is a continuous recurring cost. In the long-run switching to metric is better.
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I'm not absorbing a one-time cost. The Imperial system is more accurate for my work. The wood doesn't care, and neither do those who purchase it. You are free to use any system you like, and I'll remain free to do the same. It's very simple. I admit that I am a little amazed at those who struggle with fractions and conversions to decimal equivalents. It's very basic mathematics and good exercise for the brain. Keep in mind that before computers, engineers designed things like nuclear reactors with slide rules.
 
The Metric system is losing ground inch by inch.
 
humbolt said:
I'm not absorbing a one-time cost. The Imperial system is more accurate for my work. The wood doesn't care, and neither do those who purchase it. You are free to use any system you like, and I'll remain free to do the same. It's very simple. I admit that I am a little amazed at those who struggle with fractions and conversions to decimal equivalents. It's very basic mathematics and good exercise for the brain. Keep in mind that before computers, engineers designed things like nuclear reactors with slide rules.
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You would rather incur multiple recurring costs? Like I explained it is a standardization thing. If everything is standardized you only ever have to deal with one measurement. How is imperial more accurate for anything? Also why not just use a system with fractions and decimals when you can just use a system with only decimals that allow easy conversion? A decimal is a decimal whereas fractions require conversion.
 
Quazimodo said:
The Metric system is losing ground inch by inch.
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People will go to seemingly endless lengths to avoid thinking. It is possible to build an entire, elaborate piece of furniture without using any modern measuring devices at all. People used to do this all the time. But then, the high quality of the furniture was the objective - not standard production. Today, the lowest quality considered acceptable is the standard, and we live in a culture where everything is disposable as a result.
 
Carjosse said:
You would rather incur multiple recurring costs? Like I explained it is a standardization thing. If everything is standardized you only ever have to deal with one measurement. How is imperial more accurate for anything? Also why not just use a system with fractions and decimals when you can just use a system with only decimals that allow easy conversion? A decimal is a decimal whereas fractions require conversion.
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These are very simple conversions that a person can do mentally without bursting cranial capillaries. Practically speaking, far more tools are available in finer increments in the Imperial system than in the metric system. The chief difference is in the result of one's efforts. You are into production. I am not. I'm interested in producing the highest quality I can in each thing I make. I'm not interested in volume at all, and no two things I make are identical - not are they intended to be.
 
humbolt said:
People will go to seemingly endless lengths to avoid thinking. It is possible to build an entire, elaborate piece of furniture without using any modern measuring devices at all. People used to do this all the time. But then, the high quality of the furniture was the objective - not standard production. Today, the lowest quality considered acceptable is the standard, and we live in a culture where everything is disposable as a result.
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AMEN! (as a personal aside, you would never believe how much our backgrounds have in common)

Quaz
 
beerftw said:
I bring this up after watching on tv some shops in britain were selling things in british standard and metric instead of just metric after news of the brexit.

Most british people I have met, as well as canadians and australians, over the age of 25 were quite fluent in the imperial standard, even though those countries adopted metric in the 60's and 70's, they learned from their parents, and people did not drop what they learned because law said a new standard came about.


But with the brexit, and the rejection of european trade rules, do you think britain might end up abandoning metric and returning to the imperial standard that most of their older population is familiar with?
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It would be absolutely retarded to move back to imperial standard. Britain didn't just adopt metric (note: it's not fully metric, Britain uses miles for distance, for example) because of the EU, or because of some globalist ideals, but because the metric system is vastly superior.
 
Nilly said:
It would be absolutely retarded to move back to imperial standard. Britain didn't just adopt metric (note: it's not fully metric, Britain uses miles for distance, for example) because of the EU, or because of some globalist ideals, but because the metric system is vastly superior.
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Oh please, it is far superior to ask for a scruple of cocaine and a gill of wine than to ask for 1.3 grams of cocaine and 118mL of wine.

If i say my car has 261 kilowatts, people ask me if it's electric. If i say my car has 350 horsepower, they still don't know what that means, but they nod with respect.
 
Absentglare said:
A perch is one rod by one rod, a rood is one rod by one furlong, and an acre is one furlong by one chain.

Nothing hard there, i could drink a hogshead of wine and still remember that !
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I've painted shots on anchor chains and hauled fathoms of line to coil it, but I don't expect more than a handful of people to know what the hell I'm talking about.
A universal system of weights and measures is inevitable, and it will be metric. Doesn't mean everything else needs to be forgotten- I hope it isn't. I collect knots, hitches, bends and splices because it's an interesting hobby and is mostly useless but shouldn't be lost, just for historical value.
 
PeteEU said:
To avoid this kind of ****

CNN - Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter - September 30, 1999

125 million dollars in 1999.. that is 180 million in todays dollars.

There is absolutely no reason not to use metric.. only arrogance and nationalism prevent the US from moving over to something that is clearly superior. Brits have done it but still cling to their old ... wait guess that is where the Americans got it from..
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Why is personal preference interpreted to be "arrogance" and "nationalism?"

You're the one claiming superiority, after all.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Why is personal preference interpreted to be "arrogance" and "nationalism?"

You're the one claiming superiority, after all.
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Has absolutely nothing to do with "personal preference". It has to do with "no one is going to tell me what to do" arrogance and childishness. The US constantly goes against the rest of the world based on this attitude.
 
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