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Brexit- Not happening?

Brexit Artcle 50


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Sorry!

No taksies backsies!

The vote was held. Just because sore losers don't like it shouldn't be a reason for an immediate do-over. :roll:

Otherwise, why didn't we have a do-over when Bush Jr. stole the election from Al Gore? (Just kidding).

No. Let the people live with their choice. Stop doom-saying and wait to see how event shake out.

Referendums aren't regularly scheduled events, elections are. That's why we don't get a second election and you can have as many referendums as you wish on a particular issue.
 
Brexit is sort of the 99% vs. the .01%. The .01% control the Media ergo the Media pushes the Remain issues to such an extent that you would think that the rank and file of uneducated masses had a change of heart. That is a Mass Media manipulation. Democracy has spoken.

the media gets their money from ratings and buying from their ads... this is why they try to bring in more people and more unwise people to be free to make decisions and vote no matter how harmful for a nation.. this is why they push political correctness.. they should be locked up for being traitors to the future of the nation
 
I'm wondering how many people voted for leave because they believed some of the statements made by the campaign for leaving.

And now are seeing their champions saying they never said that.
 
Referendums aren't regularly scheduled events, elections are. That's why we don't get a second election and you can have as many referendums as you wish on a particular issue.

the UK referendum was an election.. and had a very high turnout .. that was an ELECTION

THE VERY HIGH TURNOUT is THE CLUE
 
I'm wondering how many people voted for leave because they believed some of the statements made by the campaign for leaving.

And now are seeing their champions saying they never said that.

So far I have no reason not to think "all of them."

It's a solid lesson to the rest of the world: before voting on a topic, take just one minute out of your day to google it.
 
So far I have no reason not to think "all of them."

It's a solid lesson to the rest of the world: before voting on a topic, take just one minute out of your day to google it.

the stock markets are showing the investors think UK made a wise choice
 
The stock markets have thus far seemed to perform independently of the pound (value: $1:33), leaving actual UK spending power greatly reduced. If the pound returns to its pre-Brexit strength then I'll be prepared to admit that the world overreacted economically to the vote. At that point I'll just deem the vote "sad" rather than "horrific" due to the very tangible losses that UK citizens will have lost regardless of any market rebounds.

On another note, rebounds in the market tend to occur immediately after a sudden panic indicating bear market purchases, and thus immediate opportunistic selloffs, which is exactly what we saw repeatedly in the DOW all throughout the Fall. I would lean toward this theory because there's nothing to suggest that the UK economy itself has stabilized in any way, especially seeing as both the status of Brexit and the UK leadership itself both appear to be in limbo.

In fact, I wouldn't be inclined to trust anything the FTSE says until article 50 is invoked and UK's path is known.
 
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The stock markets have thus far seemed to perform independently of the pound (value: $1:33), leaving actual UK spending power greatly reduced. If the pound returns to its pre-Brexit strength then I'll be prepared to admit that the world overreacted economically to the vote. At that point I'll just deem the vote "sad" rather than "horrific" due to the very tangible losses that UK citizens will have lost regardless of any market rebounds.

On another note, rebounds in the market tend to occur immediately after a sudden panic indicating bear market purchases, and thus immediate opportunistic selloffs, which is exactly what we saw repeatedly in the DOW all throughout the Fall. I would lean toward this theory because there's nothing to suggest that the UK economy itself has stabilized in any way, especially seeing as both the status of Brexit and the UK leadership itself both appear to be in limbo.

In fact, I wouldn't be inclined to trust anything the FTSE says until article 50 is invoked and UK's path is known.

the clue to this is the stock markets of germany and france even after twice the fall of UK did not rebound and the other clue is the nations around UK the nordic nations stock went down less than the ones that is gonna stay in the euro.. which means the stock market believes UK won an that those close nations will secede that is why they did not lose like germany and france and the ones that will stay in the euro this is part of the dominoes falling to stop liberalism world wide
 
once again the euro union stocks are taking a blood bath of losses

germany down 1.93%.. France down 1.83% and UK UP 0.11%
 
once again the euro union stocks are taking a blood bath of losses

germany down 1.93%.. France down 1.83% and UK UP 0.11%

Would it be possible that the USA's Plunge Protection Team and the Exchange Stabilization Fund could be influencing these markets for alleged stability? I state this because that it what these agencies were created to do and this is an event that would justify their intervention to stabilize/adjust/manipulate markets, banking, and currencies.
 
Would it be possible that the USA's Plunge Protection Team and the Exchange Stabilization Fund could be influencing these markets for alleged stability? I state this because that it what these agencies were created to do and this is an event that would justify their intervention to stabilize/adjust/manipulate markets, banking, and currencies.

could be.. don't know.. but when stocks fall so low and fast like the germany and france stocks it would be there most likely where stopping the loss would try to come and since obama threatened UK then that could be the case that germany and france's stock would have dropped much more than the bloodbath we have been seeing since the exit
 
The pound's value is down again ($1.31). So far from my reading of the news the only winners here are United States real estate which is seen as more attractive and Putin who wishes to see a weaker, less unified Europe.
 
Brexit- Not happening?
Well the Leaders of Leave have come out and stated they were wrong in their own statements on EU funding. Migration of Brits working in the EU??
Well over a million Brits work inside the EU, and not in the UK.
Voters were lied to. Brexit Leave leaders have been caught in their lies and people are upset as hell.

Brexit ain't happening.
Remember you read it here first.
Well many Cons do not want BJ as PM.
He has daily walked back his so called promises that all would be normal.
UKIP- Same thing – He is fast on the backtrack

The referendum is non-binding.

Parliament under the new PM, may have a free vote based upon the results??
Or under a free vote, Parliament will cozy it up nicely, saying that the issues were unclear, that the possible breakup of the country will not happen based upon such a slim majority vote.
That it was rejected by Scotland and Northern Ireland.

But this vote (Brexit) will demonstrate & send a clear message to the EU that issues must be addressed.

Next thing as the repercussions, second thoughts, more info comes to light, Parliament only has to take it under advisement.
Easy enough to say, if they stand for the most part together, the results were not definitive and the UK will not implement Article 50. They wear the press crap for a tad, and move on.

Then new elections will be called after the Cons sort out who will be the leader.
Labor Party is in a mess.
This would provide a stepping stone to reel in Brussels, the EU Parliament and the Crats.
Countries want more sovereignty, not a Unified Federal Govt in the EU running everyone. Yet some Govt’s and Crats in particular want more unity.
That will not happen and the message will be less, not more.
Possibly the ability to opt out of EU mandated programs.
Possibly a set limit on migrants within an EU country- levels to be set.
Removal of the 1 country Veto on Foreign Policy- and other issues.

EU presently has 2 seat on the UN Permanent Security Council. They would only have France if the Brits exit. A significant loss in powers and influence.

What we will see is less integration within the EU. The Crats are in trouble along with the elected member of the EU Parliament



Poll questions
Article 50 will not be implemented.
Article 50 will be implemented.

Other Pls explain


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...op-table-main_comment-720a-top:homepage/story
An astute online comment has some wondering whether Brexit may ever happen
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I don't care who the PM is.....but the EU is a bad deal for sovereignty....always has been. That's just like the UN calling all the shots here and the President and Congress don't matter.

The EU should be disbanded.
 
I don't care who the PM is.....but the EU is a bad deal for sovereignty....always has been. That's just like the UN calling all the shots here and the President and Congress don't matter.

The EU should be disbanded.

Look at that: no detail, no facts, no substance, just vague allusions to "freedom" or "sovereignty" with no cogent understanding of what freedoms UK citizens gained exactly. Just like everybody else who thinks Brexit was a fantastic idea.
 
I don't care who the PM is.....but the EU is a bad deal for sovereignty....always has been. That's just like the UN calling all the shots here and the President and Congress don't matter.

The EU should be disbanded.

No, it should have less regulations, less power within the EU crat world.
Next- Having all tied to the Euro is a failure. Look at Greece, Italy is next in line.
 
another day and another win for UK stock over both germany and france.. how long can this keep going on before germany and france raises the WHITE FLAG?
 
another day and another win for UK stock over both germany and france.. how long can this keep going on before germany and france raises the WHITE FLAG?


for the last 30 days.. tradingeconomics.com UK stock up 4.0%.. germany down 8.5%.. france down 8.0%
 
According to what I read in the news today there won't be a revote.

But OTOH,nothing happens until it happens and Brexit hasn't happened yet.
 
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