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How would you characterize the attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando?

How would you characterize the attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando?


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Islamic terrorism with a militant homophobic sentiment underpinning it.
 
By labeling it Islamic terrorism does that mean the underlying causes will be ignored?

Once labeled, what does it solve? Will it stop future acts of violence...or inspire it?
 
By labeling it Islamic terrorism does that mean the underlying causes will be ignored?

Once labeled, what does it solve? Will it stop future acts of violence...or inspire it?
No, but it gives us something to do on a Friday night! :thumbs:
 
This guy had been a mental mess since childhood... aggressive, combative, disrespectful, hostile, hateful and filled with talk of sex and violence. He was on the road to being a mass murderer/serial killer long before the word "ISIS" had even been created. He wanted to kill people, so he looked for a reason that would gain him respect that he lacked for himself. Who would respect an idiot who coldly guns down over 100 people? Why, terrorists, of course. So he loudly declared that he did it for every terrorist organization he could Google.

That said, semantical word games don't really do a thing to learn the mind of a person like that. They are tools of ideological expediency.
 
You keep saying that, but how do you know that?

I take it that you have not been following the case if you don't know. Why make a poll about something you are not interested in knowing about? Is it to help support you own knee jerk reaction where you hear him saying Alu Akabar (like Trump tweeted) even though he did not actually say those words? That is why I did not vote in your poll, this is not a ISIS terrorist attack as much as another mass shooting by a deranged madman. Not that it makes me feel any better about it, believe me.
 
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I take it that you have not been following the case if you don't know. Why make a poll about something you are not interested in knowing about? Is it to help support you own knee jerk reaction where you hear him saying Alu Akabar (like Trump tweeted) even though he did not actually say those words? That is why I did not vote in your poll, this is not a ISIS terrorist attack as much as another mass shooting by a deranged madman. Not that it makes me feel any better about it, believe me.

There are suspicions that he was really gay -- we don't know that for sure. We certainly don't know that he hated gays (that's your assumption) and was obsessed with them (also your assumption). What we do know for sure is that he pledged allegiance to ISIS and posted radical Islamic crap to his Facebook page. << not assumptions
 
There are suspicions that he was really gay -- we don't know that for sure. We certainly don't know that he hated gays (that's your assumption) and was obsessed with them (also your assumption). What we do know for sure is that he pledged allegiance to ISIS and posted radical Islamic crap to his Facebook page. << not assumptions

His father said he hated gays and got very angry when he saw 2 men kissing. He pledged allegiance to several competing groups during the shooting spree making it look like he did it at the last minute as an afterthought. He was going after gay people not making a religious statement.
 
Thati s why liberals have accomplished nothing in the war on terror.

Dealing in facts instead of silly distractions means accomplishing nothing? Advice: think before you post.
 
Your choices are --

1. Islamic Terrorism

2. Domestic Gun Violence


Please vote and explain why.

Honestly, none of the above.
I think the guy had some serious mental problems more than anything to do with being a terrorist, etc.
He just used it as an excuse to released his pent up ****ed upness.

I could be wrong, I don't really have enough info to go on I guess.
That is, at this time, my best guess.
 
An example of what could happen when serious mental health issues are left untreated.
 
An example of what could happen when serious mental health issues are left untreated.

Yes, damnit. These people are left to simmer in that mental problems without the slightest intervention/assistance. This guy was a ticking time bomb for decades.
 
Your choices are --

1. Islamic Terrorism

2. Domestic Gun Violence


Please vote and explain why.

Your country is fulll of insane people that commit mass shootings and this was done by an insane American citizen,it is not about islam,islam is not responsible for your gun problems.
 
This guy had been a mental mess since childhood... aggressive, combative, disrespectful, hostile, hateful and filled with talk of sex and violence. He was on the road to being a mass murderer/serial killer long before the word "ISIS" had even been created. He wanted to kill people, so he looked for a reason that would gain him respect that he lacked for himself. Who would respect an idiot who coldly guns down over 100 people? Why, terrorists, of course. So he loudly declared that he did it for every terrorist organization he could Google.

That said, semantical word games don't really do a thing to learn the mind of a person like that. They are tools of ideological expediency.

I appreciate it,diana
 
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And the fact that Omar himself was possibly gay, and probably had some serious confliction within himself.

If gays have such problems do they usually shoot the other gays ?
 
I voted #2.

There is no way possible that it is not 'Donestic Gun Violence'. It is domestic, he was an American citizen and a gun was used.

Plus, as mak2 stated earlier, he was a right nut and this nuttery had been going on for a long, LONG time. Plus, he was texting his wife while he held the hostages.
Naaa...this was a whacko that was using ISIS as an excuse to justify his insanity.

I am afraid there will probably be more like this. Some dingy American who hates everything and finds something to blame for him being a total loser...American foreign policy. He probably won't even know where Raqqa is...but he will claim it as 'where his heart is' and also claim he is 'killing these people to penalize Americans for their foreign policy'.
When in reality, he will just be furious that his wife left him, he can't hold down a job (because of his temper probably) and his father thinks he is a failure.
 
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I can't vote because it's both. Actually, your first choice should be "Radical Islamic Terrorism", because it is in no way reflective of the beliefs of the overwhelming majority of Islam.

A majority of Muslims world wide think homosexuality should be punishable by death. So do a very substantial number of British Muslims. So not 'no way reflective'.
 
He was a nut-case gone completely nuts.

I do not see it as an act of Islamic terrorism at all.
 
By labeling it Islamic terrorism does that mean the underlying causes will be ignored?

Once labeled, what does it solve? Will it stop future acts of violence...or inspire it?

sometimes labeling can help us to alleviate fear and speak about issues with more understanding

the problem of course is it can also do the opposite filling us with misdirected fear and justifying us in lashing out at innocents
 
He was a nut-case gone completely nuts.

I do not see it as an act of Islamic terrorism at all.

I think you are actually correct in that had he been "straight" or come from a culture accepting his bisexuality he likely would not have gone off the rails

I think he used Islamic terrorism with a final nod to ISIS in order to confuse or cover the real issue which was of course his attraction to me
 
The FBI profile of him so far indicates he is a typical mass shooter. The attribute to ISIS was more of an afterthought for him.
 
Your choices are --

1. Islamic Terrorism

2. Domestic Gun Violence


Please vote and explain why.

So no options for mental illness or all of the above? This is a very biased poll.
 
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