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Thread: Ceteris Paribus

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    Re: Ceteris Paribus

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    No, it's easy to read that statement as meaning that they're identical in terms of experience and background but not that the fundamental psychological differences between men and women have been removed as well.

    I'd vote for a woman just because we haven't seen what would would do.
    By definition of the quandry set by Jerry "she" would do EXACTLY the same as the man. That's what Ceteris Paribus means to me the way it's been set up. It's a hypothetical question remember?

    The situation couldn't exist in reality because their experiences would have to lead them down the same paths and decisions. The only difference is their sex.

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Maggie Thatcher was a nazi.
    And in this situation, the male version of Maggie Thatcher would be...? Remember it's a Ceteris Paribus situation....

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    Re: Ceteris Paribus

    Well then it's a pretty stupid scenario, but yeah I would still vote for the woman because it'd allow future women who weren't identical to a man an easier path and maybe they would contribute something new and interesting.

    We all know what the male version of Maggie Thatcher was, he existed, Ronald Reagan.
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    Re: Ceteris Paribus

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    Re: Ceteris Paribus

    If both were equally qualified in every way and I agreed with both politically equally, then I'd probably flip a coin, gender isn't a criteria I'd consider either way, any more than skin color would be.
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    Re: Ceteris Paribus

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    No, it's easy to read that statement as meaning that they're identical in terms of experience and background but not that the fundamental psychological differences between men and women have been removed as well.

    I'd vote for a woman just because we haven't seen what would would do.

    It's not necessarily a left/right issue, Maggie Thatcher was a nazi.
    The candidates are exactly the same. That's the point of the question.

    I think the point Jerry is trying to make is that voting for someone because of their gender is as dumb of a reason to vote for someone as voting to piss off your mother-in-law.
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    Re: Ceteris Paribus

    Hmmmm... I wonder which way I'd vote...

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    Re: Ceteris Paribus

    I think Capt'n and The Mark need to stop trying to add things which are unequal and answer the question.
    I think Captain's number one qualifier was perfectly legitamite because no two people can possess identical personalities. Now, if you will not allow for such a qualifier then your poll basically boils down to, "penis or vagina?", which, I feel, will yield nothing in the way of substantive discussion. I suppose, however, if it did boil down to such an essential inquiry I would have to pick vagina, because that's what I like, but then again, penis is better at dodging wayward shoes.

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