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Choosing to not use recreational drugs is...

Choosing to not use recreational drugs is...


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You made the claim, and now you've abandoned it.



I could say the exact same to you when you claim that you drink alcohol and don't want to alter your state of mind when doing so.

She didn't say they relax and don't get high. She said they smoke to relax. That's true. I smoke to relax.

You talk and say the same nonesense repetitively, we will have to agree to disagree, I dont redundantly go back and forth 50 times, it does nothing but cause hard feelings.
 
So you lied about the cell phones....so you have no credibility.

And what exactly do you think smoking pot and 'getting high' does for people? That high MELLOWS people out, it relaxes them. People on pot dont get violently drunk or sick drunk or crazy drunk.

People drink in moderation to relax...kind of a buzz. And people smoke pot in moderation to relax....that buzz from pot is the 'high.' If they smoke too much, they tune out, get their senses get dull...they dont get agressive and loud like drinkers.

You really have zero idea of what you are talking about here. But I can understand you running off when you cant substantiate what you write.

Im not even going to attempt to address this thread and your insults. You are just plain clueless or intentionally disengenuous.
 
The health benefits of drinking alcohol daily without overdoing it are well known. You cant smoke weed and not get high. Medicinal weed doesnt PREVENT anything but pain, alcohol in moderation does prevent some ailments. Medicinal weed is to get high to reduce pain. Unless there is something I dont know about medicinal weed that you can show me, then Im sticking to that.

7 Health Benefits Of Drinking Alcohol
7 Health Benefits Of Drinking Alcohol

You would have to prove to me that your mind is altered with the first drink and even if it is. It does not impair your ability to do anything. Weed does, Ive heard the most laughable statements about weed from stoners.
For example: I drive better stoned, I play games better stoned etc etc, thats just flat out baloney.

Look ive been around too many stoners to get bull****ted about weed and the effects of weed.

Here you can read this at your leisure

Marijuana In The Body - A Fact Sheet On The Effects Of Marijuana | Busted - America's War On Marijuana | FRONTLINE | PBS

Ok gentlemen I am done with the marihuana conversation it always results in redundancy and sometimes hard feelings which I am not trying to create I actually want to avoid it. Just merely disagreeing on an issue or event creates strong animosity. Im going to try and avoid it. :)

Please research CBD, it is the chemical component in cannabis which prevents seizures, no thc involved. It nullifies allot of your post.
 
Oh good, you actually backed something you claimed.

Many of those health benefits apply to red wine, not because of the alcohol, and could thus be substituted with grape juice.

"It’s safe to say that alcohol is both a tonic and a poison. The difference lies mostly in the dose. Moderate drinking seems to be good for the heart and circulatory system, and probably protects against type 2 diabetes and gallstones. Heavy drinking is a major cause of preventable death in most countries. In the U.S., alcohol is implicated in about half of fatal traffic accidents. (1) Heavy drinking can damage the liver and heart, harm an unborn child, increase the chances of developing breast and some other cancers, contribute to depression and violence, and interfere with relationships."

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol-full-story/

Tell me, have you EVER heard of a doctor prescribing alcohol to a patient ...? Once ? Ever ?

Further, the effects on brain cells weren't well characterized in your article. Drinking alcohol into your old age is very clearly harmful for them.



It does impair your ability to do things. I already gave you links. You dismissed them so that you can excuse your behavior of regularly using an addictive substance.

Your blathering about stoners is a strawman. Or do you think i can start naming dumb things drunk people have done to debunk your side of this argument ? I'm not sure i've ever seen anyone argue such a stupid point before. The dumb things drunks have done outweighs the dumb things potheads do a thousand to one.



It's not merely disagreeing on an issue, you've made accusations based on prejudice and we're addressing them.

Alcohol related traffic accidents are down and cellphone accidents are up. Distracted driving is the number one cause of traffic accidents at this time and that does come from various activities

In the past most all dui' with a smell of alcohol were listed alcohol dwi. Half were drug and alcohol. Drug users years ago tried to disquse drug use with alcohol because it was legal.

Its absurd too keep making the statement that one or two drinks impairs most anyone. There very well may be some very small people that could be affected buy they are truly a small minority.

You and others misrepresent "brain activity" for impairment. If you smoke tabacco your brain shows activiity also and you are not impaired.

Ive been through this for years, those that smoke weed will defend it mightily and excuse away anything that points to it being anything but a WONDER DRUG that cures all and does only wonderful things. It was a crock of **** then and it still is.

Medicinally weed has benefits so do other drugs that are bought illegally. Many of the benefits of medicinal weed are overstated by the I just wanna get stoned crowd. Most all of the benefits now known of medicinal weed can be made into medicine pills etc without getting high and affecting psyche.

There are many medicinal drugs that can alter your psyche thats why the are regulated "AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE" and legal under the right circumstances.

My opposition to weed is minimal compared to my opposition to other issues. I just chuckle reading many pro weed posts with the utter dishonesty and all the bogus cheerleading. What makes it funny to me is they dont even realize that their posts are full of platitudes and they cant find the honesty to admit to a single downside to getting whacked. Getting whacked on anything is bad for everyone else and can be a hazard to anyone else. Alcohol and legal prescription drug abuse included. Weed to me has another very bad downside, kids!!! unfortunately there are way to many irresponsible parents that smoke in front of their kids. Yes they drink too but the kids cant inhale second hand weed. One day the effects of second hand weed and weed smoking will be published "after" its legal all the true truths are tactfully ignored or disguised. Thats my belief anyway.


The basis of my opposition may have a generational component also. Im 69 yrs old I dont always see things the same as younger people. My kids and grand kids make me aware of that.

BTW absentglare Ive continued to talk to you about this and not others, because you are not insulting and you are reasonable and I appreciate that, thanks for being a gentlemen.
 
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Im not even going to attempt to address this thread and your insults. You are just plain clueless or intentionally disengenuous.

If you cannot understand the factual distinctions, that is your limitation, not mine. IMO you just have no means to counter my statements.
 
If you cannot understand the factual distinctions, that is your limitation, not mine. IMO you just have no means to counter my statements.

Yeah thats it [the end]
 
Definitely seeing some advocacy for drug use. In fact, it's coming off almost peer pressure-ish (which personally never worked on me in school). So, what are your thoughts on the choice to not to use recreational drugs?

I try to be as drug-free as possible these days, but still regularly consume caffeine, and alcohol occasionally. But there was a time when I was more curious, and tried a few things (though mostly softer and/or legal stuff).

I feel there are many good arguments in favor of sobriety. But if someone enjoys using drugs responsibly, I don't think that's a major problem.

It irritates me how accepted, even expected alcohol -- a relatively hard drug -- is in many circles and social occassions. When I wanted to stay sober on a wedding, for example, the waitress didn't even consider this possibility and had no alternative to the champaign, and when I later rejected the wine, I got quite a few confused stares and questions by some guests.
 
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