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Is a stay at Home mother a job?

Is a stay at home mother working, as in a job?


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Yes... but it isn't a job. It is fun. It is silly. It is easy. Always has been ...


$100,000 a year on child care? How rich are they? I can think of worse problems...

But - you seem pro child-care regardless of the expense.

What's the point? All that working just to stick them in daycare when, without the expense of daycare, you could work less?

If child-rearing is fun, as you feel it is, then what's the harm in valuing it more? What's the point of even having kids if YOU aren't raising them? If they spend more time away from home than WITH family and family values . . . then why even have kids?

Sure - it's easy and fun when SOMEONE ELSE DOES THE HARD WORK FOR YOU.

My husband did not have the same experiences I did while raising young children - and he still doesn't. He gets teh fun times . . . because I take them to the hospital, the doctor, I pick up all their medications, and I argue on behalf of all of them when things go wrong, I cook dinner and do the grocery shopping, I do the laundry and the cleaning and lawn care, when they have issues (like needing to be placed in a mental care instituion) I'm the one to take care of all of that. I renovate and build shelving. That's what I mean by everything else.

I imagine that the parenting portion of living is very enjoyable when you work hard somewhere ELSE - usually with adults who can communicate and listen - and then come home and put your feet up. My husband used to come home and go straight to sleep - and sleep all the way until dinner time.

Yeah - that sounds easy and fun, sure. Just not for me.

And now - I do everything else, and I work. I now do it all and he's been retired and attending college as a part time student - which I've tutored him through.

I imagine if I just went to my job away from the house and did my work and came home to dinner already cooked, life would be rosy cheeks and rainbows for me, too. Especially if I never had to put the kids to bed or wake them up in the morning. Sure - awesome. All the hard work in parenting is done by someone else. thumbs-up. I'd be more productive, even, and be able to double my revenue and royalties . . . but you know I'm a mom so that's a pipe dream.

I fully get why men don't want to do child-care and be stay at home dad, etc. Yep.
 
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Is a stay at home mother really working?

Of course not. The entire notion is Politically Correct nonsense. She has the kids a couple of extra hours than a working father and then when the kids go to school she gets a big break in the day and gets to walk on the beach, do yoga, lunch with friends, etc.

What are your thoughts?

"As in, a job?"

No. A job is something you get to clock out of at the end of the day.
 
Mitt Romney would like you to know that stay at home mothers never learn about the dignity of work.
 
I won't deny it's hard work, but it won't pay the electric bill.
 
Not remotely. It's something the individual (sometimes) chooses to do, knowing there will not be compensation and in fact will equate to a net loss, unless it allows for welfare. It's also incredibly difficult to get 'fired' from this role without also being arrested for abuse or neglect. The mother is far more like the 'boss' of her kids than an employee

It's also a choice that's often made because the routine of a job just isn't cutting it. In other words, it fulfills needs that a real job cannot

I wonder why we never have the question phrased "is a pet owner a job?" "is doing yard work a job?" "is my hobby a job?"
 
"As in, a job?"

No. A job is something you get to clock out of at the end of the day.

That makes no sense. So the only jobs are limited to a set numbers of hours?

I'm self employed but average 6 - 10 hours a day - sometimes more. Sometimes, to get my job done, I work around the clock, even staying up for endless days to make things happen.

I have a routine - but I have no 'clock' because someone else isn't needing to watch my 'time' to cut my pay. I work for revenue from sales and royalties. Like millions of self employed people do.

And my husband was deployed for 18 months more than once in his life - no clocking out from military duties.
 
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Is it a job? Jesus, God! It's probably the worst job in the world. It never ends and you are on constant stand-by. Work your ass off all day long and at night when you you finally sit down on the couch to relax someone shoves a dick in your face and asks if you wanna.

I wouldn't want to be a housewife for any amount of money.

They don't have a real boss or customers or backstabbing coworkers, and the kids will grow up. I'd take that "job" any day
 
That makes no sense. So the only jobs are limited to a set numbers of hours?

I'm self employed but average 6 - 10 hours a day - sometimes more. Sometimes, to get my job done, I work around the clock, even staying up for endless days to make things happen.

I have a routine - but I have no 'clock' because someone else isn't needing to watch my 'time' to cut my pay. I work for revenue from sales and royalties. Like millions of self employed people do.

And my husband was deployed for 18 months more than once in his life - no clocking out from military duties.

Uh, I was making a much different point than the one you interpreted me as making.
 
Uh, I was making a much different point than the one you interpreted me as making.

And I pointed out the logical fallacy of 'a job is something you clock out of' - I know you were trying to apply it to being a stay at home parent, but it was clearly faulty through and through as that's not how most people work.
 
Is a stay at home mother really working?

Of course not. The entire notion is Politically Correct nonsense. She has the kids a couple of extra hours than a working father and then when the kids go to school she gets a big break in the day and gets to walk on the beach, do yoga, lunch with friends, etc.

What are your thoughts?


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Bodhi... I know you know better!

(I hope!)

I'm kinda surprised, TBH. I've been fairly inactive @ DP lately, but it seems so contrary to how I remember you!
 
And I pointed out the logical fallacy of 'a job is something you clock out of' - I know you were trying to apply it to being a stay at home parent, but it was clearly faulty through and through as that's not how most people work.

NO.

I was placing motherhood above the simplistic notion of it being a "job."

Chris rock, for example, brilliantly demonstrates that the word "job" is a nuanced one that can be distinguished from other words, the example he used being "career."

 
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Bodhi... I know you know better!

(I hope!)

I'm kinda surprised, TBH. I've been fairly inactive @ DP lately, but it seems so contrary to how I remember you!

I'm pretty sure this thread isn't serious.
 
Really? Someone hack your account?

working
ˈwəːkɪŋ/
adjective
adjective: working

1.
having paid employment.

Obviously I meant it as in "like having a job" but you are free to think that you were clever if you like.
 
Isn't a stay at home mother cleaning, doing laundry, cooking and other tasks while the kids are at school? I have to wonder if you are being sarcastic or never taken care of any children,did house work or cooked anything.

No. All that is being a housewife. Like you said, the kids are at school.
 
Look at it this way: When you want someone else to do the same work taking care for your kids, you'd have to pay him/her quite a lot on the job market, right?

So owning a pet is a job too? I mean, you have to pay a kennel to watch them for you when you go on vacation...
 
Is a stay at home mother really working?

Of course not. The entire notion is Politically Correct nonsense. She has the kids a couple of extra hours than a working father and then when the kids go to school she gets a big break in the day and gets to walk on the beach, do yoga, lunch with friends, etc.

What are your thoughts?

I would not read this post of yours on your next first date with a woman were I you....unless the woman has few brain cells and/or no self esteem.
 
Sure - it's easy and fun when SOMEONE ELSE DOES THE HARD WORK FOR YOU.

My husband did not have the same experiences I did while raising young children - and he still doesn't. He gets teh fun times . . . because I take them to the hospital, the doctor, I pick up all their medications, and I argue on behalf of all of them when things go wrong, I cook dinner and do the grocery shopping, I do the laundry and the cleaning and lawn care, when they have issues (like needing to be placed in a mental care instituion) I'm the one to take care of all of that. I renovate and build shelving. That's what I mean by everything else.

I imagine that the parenting portion of living is very enjoyable when you work hard somewhere ELSE - usually with adults who can communicate and listen - and then come home and put your feet up. My husband used to come home and go straight to sleep - and sleep all the way until dinner time.

Yeah - that sounds easy and fun, sure. Just not for me.

And now - I do everything else, and I work. I now do it all and he's been retired and attending college as a part time student - which I've tutored him through.

I imagine if I just went to my job away from the house and did my work and came home to dinner already cooked, life would be rosy cheeks and rainbows for me, too. Especially if I never had to put the kids to bed or wake them up in the morning. Sure - awesome. All the hard work in parenting is done by someone else. thumbs-up. I'd be more productive, even, and be able to double my revenue and royalties . . . but you know I'm a mom so that's a pipe dream.

I fully get why men don't want to do child-care and be stay at home dad, etc. Yep.

If you remember I am a single father so I take them to the hospital, the doctor, I pick up all their medications, and I argue on behalf of all of them when things go wrong, I cook dinner and do the grocery shopping, I do the laundry and the cleaning and lawn care, when they have issues (like needing to be placed in a mental care instituion) I'm the one to take care of all of that. I renovate and build shelving too. I am up late wit hthem when they are sick and take them to school and take them to buy clothes or art supplies AND I have a full time job. ;)
 
They don't have a real boss or customers or backstabbing coworkers, and the kids will grow up. I'd take that "job" any day

I mean, if you havea bunch of kids or disabled kids or seomthing then stay at home parenting sounds really tough... but we are also talking about middle to upper class mothers, for the most part, and life isn't a hardship so I don't see why we have to coddle them and pat them on the back for their "job".
 
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Bodhi... I know you know better!

(I hope!)

I'm kinda surprised, TBH. I've been fairly inactive @ DP lately, but it seems so contrary to how I remember you!

I love those shoes!
 
If you remember I am a single father so I take them to the hospital, the doctor, I pick up all their medications, and I argue on behalf of all of them when things go wrong, I cook dinner and do the grocery shopping, I do the laundry and the cleaning and lawn care, when they have issues (like needing to be placed in a mental care instituion) I'm the one to take care of all of that. I renovate and build shelving too. I am up late wit hthem when they are sick and take them to school and take them to buy clothes or art supplies AND I have a full time job. ;)

And you don't think it's hard work?

You're lying to me, now, if you're saying that parenting isn't exhausting - worth it, yes. Exhausting - yes.

:)

Anyway - I'm glad you're seeing the brighter side of things and hopefully things continue to go well.
 
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