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When Bernie defects...

What happens when Bernie supports Hillary?

  • It means Hillary wasn't as bad as you thought.

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • It means Bernie isn't as amazing as you thought.

    Votes: 2 15.4%

  • It means your head is going to explode.

    Votes: 8 61.5%
  • Total voters
    13
A Trump v Clinton general could cause record civil unrest and all-in-all plunge the US into chaos.
 
Greenbeard said:
Surely if the revolution isn't enough to get him the Dem nomination it can at least help flip 5-6 competitive Senate contests to make Bernie Budget chairman.
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i don't see it happening, but who knows? what i really don't want to see is Republicans controlling the legislative and executive branches at the same time with someone like Trump at the helm.
 
MrWonka said:
In a few short weeks the reality of Hillary Clinton winning the Democratic Nomination will set in and Bernie Sanders will have no choice, but to drop out. When he does he's going to give a full throated endorsement of Hillary Clinton and I wouldn't be shocked at all if she ended up putting him on the ticket as her running mate. Either him or Elizabeth Warren.

I'm curious for all the Bernie supporters that hate Hillary Clinton what will that mean to you?
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Well, what can I say? If that's how it goes, that's how it goes. About the endorsing her part, not being on her ticket.

Lulz at the poll options.
 
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Sanders will endorse Trump..
 
Orly? said:
Sanders will endorse Trump..
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VanceMack said:
It will probably mean the same thing when the GOP begins to accept Trump as the alternative to Hillary Clinton.
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"Our candidate is less bad." - both parties this year.
 
Sanders has always supported Clinton.
Some of his young supporters have become aggressive towards Clinton, but Sanders himself has always been positive with Clinton.
I am sure someone can find an instance where this is not the case, but in general... it is true.

Any true Sanders supporter that understands what they are supporting, will gladly support Clinton against the Corporate shills put forth by the Republican Party.
 
Bernie wouldn't be who I thought he was.
 
Fenton said:
Dont count your Chikens before they've hatched

Hillary Clinton is currently under a Criminal
FBI investigation and people just don't trust her let alone like her.

If she does make it to the General she'll be limited to empty identity politics,.stale left wing talking points and pandering for votes

She won't be able to run on Obama's accomplishments or her own
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You are the one counting chickens...

Why Hillary Won't Be Indicted and Shouldn't Be: An Objective Legal Analysis
 
MrWonka said:
In a few short weeks the reality of Hillary Clinton winning the Democratic Nomination will set in and Bernie Sanders will have no choice, but to drop out. When he does he's going to give a full throated endorsement of Hillary Clinton and I wouldn't be shocked at all if she ended up putting him on the ticket as her running mate. Either him or Elizabeth Warren.

I'm curious for all the Bernie supporters that hate Hillary Clinton what will that mean to you?
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im guessing it will mean still not wanting the republican nominee to be president for a lot of people
 
Helix said:
i doubt that she'll do anything for him, honestly. he's little more than an annoying speed bump to her. and what are Sanders supporters going to do, vote for Trump or Cruz? right. stay home and risk Trump or Cruz? right.

folks, this election shows you what a phenomenal piece of **** the gerrymandered two party system really is. if it produces anything approaching a good choice, it's usually by accident. i hope that the American electorate eventually stands up and demands something better.
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1)Actually Yes that's exactly what I think will happen. The people in my immediate friend circle who are his most enthusiastic supporters believe the system is rigged aganst them, and Bernie's loss will prove that, and yes they will stay home and stew and complain the system is rigged against them when they lose and so what's the point?

2) Gerrymandering has nothing to do with it, there are two effective parties because most people are not single issue voters, and most third parties do not wish to win anyway.
 
Painter said:
Sanders has always supported Clinton.
Some of his young supporters have become aggressive towards Clinton, but Sanders himself has always been positive with Clinton.
I am sure someone can find an instance where this is not the case, but in general... it is true.

Any true Sanders supporter that understands what they are supporting, will gladly support Clinton against the Corporate shills put forth by the Republican Party.
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Clinton is a corporate shill, she showed up at her likely opponents wedding in exchange for a campaign contribution, how do you not say she is? most true sanders supporters will likely not even turn out.

because the democratic party had it out for Bernie and have savagely attacked his supporters, Clintons own people have said women who vote for Bernie are just hanging out to get laid, etc etc etc.

the people in Bernie's base who were already politically active will go to Clinton, those who got active to support Bernie will be back to whatever they were doing before he came along by election day.
 
MrWonka said:
I'm curious for all the Bernie supporters that hate Hillary Clinton what will that mean to you?
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If it happens, and I have my doubts about that, it means Hillary is exactly what I thought she was. A shrewd political operator who has little to no principles and will do whatever is necessary to gain her the most money and/or support.
 
VanceMack said:
It will probably mean the same thing when the GOP begins to accept Trump as the alternative to Hillary Clinton.
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Yeah, that's not likely to happen. Expect a third party candidate. Trump is viewed as an existential threat to the party's establishment. Hillary is the democratic establishment's preferred candidate.
 
Helix said:
i doubt that she'll do anything for him, honestly. he's little more than an annoying speed bump to her. and what are Sanders supporters going to do, vote for Trump or Cruz? right. stay home and risk Trump or Cruz? right.

folks, this election shows you what a phenomenal piece of **** the gerrymandered two party system really is. if it produces anything approaching a good choice, it's usually by accident. i hope that the American electorate eventually stands up and demands something better.
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LIKE x 1,000,000
 
You left out the important OTHER.

Examples:
Other: Fabricated Poll not based on anything the candidate has said.
Other: This is a hate poll to bring out the worse in DP posters.
Other: Is there an honest question here?
Other: You are basing this on a typical politician which Sanders is not.

ThePlayDrive said:
Apparently, there's a movement among some Sanders supporters to vote for Trump if Clinton wins the nomination. I don't understand it, but politics is strange.
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The logic is really strategy. It isn't necessarily a sound strategy. But the folks who were voting for Sanders purely as an antiestablishment candidate, may see Trump as the second best bet as an antiestablishment candidate.
This isn't me. I saw Sanders as progressive and with some fairly sound strategies for "getting there". And more importantly than anything, he is the most honest candidate. Honesty in modern politics carries a lot of weight with me.
 
MrWonka said:
Yeah, that's not likely to happen. Expect a third party candidate. Trump is viewed as an existential threat to the party's establishment. Hillary is the democratic establishment's preferred candidate.
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If Trump wins the nomination, big picture thinking will immediately come into play. Its virtually impossible that they will go third party.

Hillary sucks. Her own party knows it. They have to rely on false outrage, ginned up racial attacks, class warfare, and the ridiculous 'war on women' rhetoric just to get democrats angry enough to vote for that turd. Along comes Trump to play the perfect and willing patsy. But make no mistake. If its Cruz and not Trump, the Rats would be doing and saying the same things they are now. Or Kasich.

On the other hand...the dems are playing into Trumps hand.

One thing is certain...if you are a member of either party and you play in their **** filled kiddie pool...after this is over you should go look at yourself in a mirror and slap yourself. Really hard.
 
Helix said:
i hope that the American electorate eventually stands up and demands something better.
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Might be worth a separate topic, but how? How can the electorate possibly change the establishment politics, and the pre-selected candidates by the elites?
 
Northern Light said:
Might be worth a separate topic, but how? How can the electorate possibly change the establishment politics, and the pre-selected candidates by the elites?
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Idea Only:
• A group who really wants change gets together and forms a non-profit.
• The non-profit raises fund for their selection of candidates, likely independents.
• This independent is then campaigned and hyped to hell in a way that makes super hero movies jealous.
• The corruption problem of only two party debates being covered by the media is tackled (not sure the solution).
• People vote in the prize candidate.
• The problem with the corrupt electoral college who will veto the people is tackled (not sure the solution...maybe dig up their dirt and buy their silence).
• A good president that the people actually are excited about and want is elected.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
That said, she's not going to choose Sanders or Warren because their philosophies are FAR too different from her own.
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When Clinton and Sanders were in the Senate together they voted exactly the same 93% of the time. This notion that they are radically different is invented out of nothingness. Keep in mind it was Clinton who was the primary supporter of single payer health care for most of the last two decades. She only gave up on it after she lost the 2008 primary and Obama was able to get his bill passed.

The differences between Sanders and Clinton have been highlighted repeatedly by their supporters in the primary, but in the grand scheme of things their policy beliefs are actually pretty close. Rejecting either candidate because they're radically different than the one you prefer is ridiculous and counter productive.
 
Ntharotep said:
Idea Only:
• A group who really wants change gets together and forms a non-profit.
• The non-profit raises fund for their selection of candidates, likely independents.
• This independent is then campaigned and hyped to hell in a way that makes super hero movies jealous.
• The corruption problem of only two party debates being covered by the media is tackled (not sure the solution).
• People vote in the prize candidate.
• The problem with the corrupt electoral college who will veto the people is tackled (not sure the solution...maybe dig up their dirt and buy their silence).
• A good president that the people actually are excited about and want is elected.
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I appreciate the thought but I can't see this happening without the establishment somehow hijacking the process for themselves. Look at what happened to the Tea Party. It started very grassroots and then became a GOP / Sarah Palin merry-go-round.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I saw a lot of "ifs", "ands", "possibles", and other like words in that. Not very convincing. :shrug:
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Notwithstanding 1), it is left-wing biased, and 2) that wasn't Fenton's original point anywho. His point was that the controversy surrounding the possibility of indictment is unequivocally and ostensibly harming her reputation and approval. Whether she will (or should) be indicted or not is irrelevant at this point. Her scandals have become mainstream. That in and of itself is almost as bad as actually being indicted. :shrug:
 
I suspect that Bernie was in this race to drive Hillary a little to the left on matters of trade and some other issue. Also, to shield her from the inevitable questions from moderators on her email problem. This is what he did on two of the debates I watched when she was questioned about her emails. Also, he's in the race to get people interested in politics that never would have been if it were only Hillary, like the very young voters. After he withdraws from the race, he will try to coax those newly interested youngsters to vote for Hillary, rather than stay at home. I believe Sander to be this loyal, and sincere.
 
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