Trump Dilemma if he doesn't get the nominee.

LaylaWindu said:

? That's confusing to me. Not trying to be a smartass I promise but you quoted me and asked me a question. You asked me if "I" thought running a 3rd Party candidate, would be a noble effort?
So when I asked, who said that, it meant why would you think "I" feel that way since I didn't suggest that. So then to answer me you post a quote from some other random person who has nothing to do with me? You understand that doesn't make much sense at all right?

It would basically be like if you made a post about how you love yellow, I quote it, and asked, so I guess that means you hate blue then? Then you ask me who said that and I post some random person saying they hate blue and love yellow.

Again I swear I'm not being a smart ass but that really makes no sense to me. It's VERY random and has nothing to do with what I said.

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The "who" was mistaken by me to be a reference to someone desirous of a 3rd party run since I thought at the time the subject was Trump running 3rd party if he didn't get the nom.
I know YOU didn't say you wanted it. I took your question to be something like "Who on earth would want such a thing?" so I answered it that way.
Sounds like a misunderstanding.
Sorry.

rocket88 said:

Of course numerous parties will have candidates regardless...which I expect the 2 party sheeple to ignore.

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If Trump runs on a third party ticket he will not be ignored.

I think it depends. If he gets to the convention, lacking only a couple of hundred votes and they stab him in the back, he'll run independently and will cost the GOP the election. At that point, they deserve it. But the GOP has been a bunch of assholes already, instead of following where their members want to go, they are pushing for their own establishment candidate, screw the voters.

bubbabgone said:

so if Trump gets the nom and the stoptrump gang of neocons run a 3rd Party candidate, that'd be a noble effort?

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Yes. Yes.

I voted no he will not run third party. I believe this is just hype some are trying to stir up. First off there are sore loser laws in many states where you can not run again on another ticket if your party rejects you as their nominee.

This primary it has been obvious the voters have rejected the establishment candidates. If they start changing rules to deny Trump or Cruz there will be a revolt and the Republican party as we know it will be finished. If it goes to a contested convention, the candidate that can secure the needed delegates will be the nominee. Period. Cruz camp has been working hard to increase their delegates. I read yesterday that they have managed to secure at least 100 more. He is in ND this weekend working to secure several unbound delegates. It's awfully brazen of some in the establishment to think they have a right to deny the people their vote because they think they have a better candidate. Why bother to vote if the establishment can pick and choose.

LaylaWindu said:

Seems like there's lots of talk about Trump, whether he will get the nominee or if some of the GOP will push to somehow not give it to him and give it to Cruz. This isn't about if they actually can, this isn't about if it will be Cruz and this isn't about if he will get the nominee.

My question is simple:

If Trump doesn't obtain the republican nominee do you really think he wouldn't run for president anyway?
Yes he will still run
No he will not run
Other


I personally think he will run regardless and if he does get it I think somebody else like Cruz will also run cause the GOP hopes to go from highly unlikely to impossible.

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He'll quit with a big sigh of relief. I think he's looking for a way out now, that's his rhetoric is getting worse and worse.

bubbabgone said:

The "who" was mistaken by me to be a reference to someone desirous of a 3rd party run since I thought at the time the subject was Trump running 3rd party if he didn't get the nom.
I know YOU didn't say you wanted it. I took your question to be something like "Who on earth would want such a thing?" so I answered it that way.
Sounds like a misunderstanding.
Sorry.

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I see, yes it was, thank you for your patient and no apologies needed.

haymarket said:

If Trump runs on a third party ticket he will not be ignored.

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My point was there already will be numerous third, fourth, fifth, etc. party candidates. People will not "waste their vote" on them. Personally, I can't think of a bigger waste of a vote than one which is based on the idea that you only have two choices. It requires only lack of a thought process to go along with the sheeple and vote for Clinton or Trump. Those are the wasted votes.

LaylaWindu said:

Seems like there's lots of talk about Trump, whether he will get the nominee or if some of the GOP will push to somehow not give it to him and give it to Cruz. This isn't about if they actually can, this isn't about if it will be Cruz and this isn't about if he will get the nominee.

My question is simple:

If Trump doesn't obtain the republican nominee do you really think he wouldn't run for president anyway?
Yes he will still run
No he will not run
Other


I personally think he will run regardless and if he does get it I think somebody else like Cruz will also run cause the GOP hopes to go from highly unlikely to impossible.

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The Republicans had a golden chance. They should have won this election easily. Instead, they seem poised to throw it away by nominating Trump.

If Trump somehow doesn't get the nomination, he won't be a candidate except by his supporters installing him by force. Which I don't necessarily put past them. At any rate, he won't disappear, he'll just make the Republican nominee wish he just stayed where he was and didn't get involved.

July 21st will be too late to get him on the ballot in some states.

rocket88 said:

The Republicans had a golden chance. They should have won this election easily. Instead, they seem poised to throw it away by nominating Trump.

If Trump somehow doesn't get the nomination, he won't be a candidate except by his supporters installing him by force. Which I don't necessarily put past them. At any rate, he won't disappear, he'll just make the Republican nominee wish he just stayed where he was and didn't get involved.

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I partially agree. I don't know if it would have ever been easy but I agree they seem determined to lose it with the people they decided to run.

jet57 said:

He'll quit with a big sigh of relief. I think he's looking for a way out now, that's his rhetoric is getting worse and worse.

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I hope you're right. If he says/does something so outrageous that even his supporters turn on him, then he can say, "See? They feared me. They ran me out of town.", and save face.

radcen said:

I hope you're right. If he says/does something so outrageous that even his supporters turn on him, then he can say, "See? They feared me. They ran me out of town.", and save face.

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The problem is that no matter what he says, the support only gets louder. He could literally say anything at this point. Literally anything.

rocket88 said:

The problem is that no matter what he says, the support only gets louder. He could literally say anything at this point. Literally anything.

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*sigh* I know you're right.

At least so far. I keep hoping there's a line somewhere, but I've given up expecting where.

radcen said:

I hope you're right. If he says/does something so outrageous that even his supporters turn on him, then he can say, "See? They feared me. They ran me out of town.", and save face.

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You got it.

Wiggen said:

July 21st will be too late to get him on the ballot in some states.

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Only about ten or so including a big one - Texas. But its not too difficult in many other especially if he can pay for petition signature circulators.

And even in states where he missed the deadline, he may be able to convince parties which already have ballot access to pick hi, to drastically increase their vote numbers.